What happens if Biden gets his $15 minimum wage passed?

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must love dogs.

must hate romney.

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If hiking the minimum wage by government fiat is so effective at making the poor prosperous, why are four of the five American cities with the highest rate of unsheltered homelessness in Calipornia: San Franshitsco, Los Angeles, Santa Rosa and San Jose.

Deep- blue Seattle joins the Calipornia municipalities in the top five.

The DEMOCRAT-dominated District of Columbia has the highest unsheltered homeless rate in the country - 5.8 times the U.S. rate.

DEMOCRAT-dominated Blue York is next, followed by Hawaii, Oregon and Calipornia - all under one-party rule.

These five states together comprise 20% of the overall U.S. population but 45% of the country’s homeless population.



https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-state-is-home-to-nearly-half-of-all-people-living-on-the-streets-in-the-us-2019-09-18

its not high enough?

[CFM]

If hiking the minimum wage by government fiat is so effective at making the poor prosperous, why are four of the five American cities with the highest rate of unsheltered homelessness in Calipornia: San Franshitsco, Los Angeles, Santa Rosa and San Jose.

Deep- blue Seattle joins the Calipornia municipalities in the top five.

The DEMOCRAT-dominated District of Columbia has the highest unsheltered homeless rate in the country - 5.8 times the U.S. rate.

DEMOCRAT-dominated Blue York is next, followed by Hawaii, Oregon and Calipornia - all under one-party rule.

These five states together comprise 20% of the overall U.S. population but 45% of the country’s homeless population.



https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-state-is-home-to-nearly-half-of-all-people-living-on-the-streets-in-the-us-2019-09-18

In places like those you mentioned, the increased minimum wage experiment failed as predicted.

One would think that providing that living wage would mean less not more homelessness.

[Legion]

its not high enough?

It never is, is it?

I've never seen a DEMOCRAT take money out of their own wallet to help a struggling minimum wage worker.

Have you?

In fact, they routinely deride "burger flippers" on this forum, don't they?

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It never is, is it?

I've never seen a DEMOCRAT take money out of their own wallet to help a struggling minimum wage worker.

Have you?

In fact, they routinely deride "burger flippers" on this forum, don't they?

rarely.

and yes they do.

they also hate american workers.

dem = hate american workers because they're american.

rep = hate american workers because they're workers

[Legion]

In places like those you mentioned, the increased minimum wage experiment failed as predicted. One would think that providing that living wage would mean less not more homelessness.

According to one leftist, it's the fault of "right-wingers", CEO pay, something he calls "black codes", and they need more time t work, but he can't say how much more.

[CFM]

According to one leftist, it's the fault of "right-wingers", CEO pay, something he calls "black codes", and they need more time t work, but he can't say how much more.

It's always one generation away. Much like their claims on climate change. They say doing certain things will help the problem they claim exists yet can't say how much or by when.

[Legion]

It's always one generation away. Much like their claims on climate change. They say doing certain things will help the problem they claim exists yet can't say how much or by when.

Indeed.

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-...c-predictions/

[LV426]

The money to double that wage has to come from somewhere. Where that "somewhere" is could make the wage increase effectively void.

The money to double the wage comes from revenues, as it always does.

Have you...have you ever worked in a business before?

Really? You so far haven't sourced a thing you've claimed.

What would you like a source for?

That 58M people make below $15/hr right now?

That raising the wage from $7.50/hr to $15/hr keeps that worker in the same bracket? (I already sourced that for you, and as usual, you just ignored it because it was inconvenient to your argument).

That increasing consumption increases revenues?

I don't understand what you're looking for, and I don't think you even know what you're looking for either.

You keep making a argument that is void of any other influences or pressure other than the wage goes up.

Are you fucking kidding me with this bad faith desperate bullshit????

From WHAT I WROTE THAT YOU LITERALLY QUOTED:

I have said that at least a dozen times that costs will nominally and/or incrementally go up,

So again, you are in the habit of hastily and sloppily responding to threads that you don't even take the time to read before responding to them!

What the fuck dude?

[T. A. Gardner]

If hiking the minimum wage by government fiat is so effective at making the poor prosperous, why are four of the five American cities with the highest rate of unsheltered homelessness in Calipornia: San Franshitsco, Los Angeles, Santa Rosa and San Jose.

Deep- blue Seattle joins the Calipornia municipalities in the top five.

The DEMOCRAT-dominated District of Columbia has the highest unsheltered homeless rate in the country - 5.8 times the U.S. rate.

DEMOCRAT-dominated Blue York is next, followed by Hawaii, Oregon and Calipornia - all under one-party rule.

These five states together comprise 20% of the overall U.S. population but 45% of the country’s homeless population.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-state-is-home-to-nearly-half-of-all-people-living-on-the-streets-in-the-us-2019-09-18

I remember a case where Long Beach raised their minimum wage (this was back in the early 90's) and made employer health insurance near mandatory. One of the harder hit business sectors was that for janitorial and maid staff at things like hotels and other commercial businesses. These throughout Long Beach fired their employees in those jobs eliminating them from their staff where those jobs existed.
They were then replaced by employees of contractor companies that did that sort of work that were not based in Long Beach. Thus, these businesses could pay their employees a much lower wage even as they worked in Long Beach. This was because legally, they weren't employed by a company that was in Long Beach.
The result was that many residents of Long Beach lost their jobs. The city lost revenue, and the jobs still got done at a lower wage by employers gaming the system.

Here in Arizona when the minimum wage laws were changed about the same time, the new law had no exemptions written into it. One particular industry / business sector basically ceased to exist within months losing about 7,000 jobs. That was companies that employed the severely handicapped.
Previously, these companies employed severely handicapped persons to do very marginal jobs like stuff envelopes, or other simple tasks they could handle, but were allowed to pay a much lower wage that didn't impact their government or insurance benefits they received because of being severely handicapped. At the same time, many of these individuals wanted to work at these jobs because it gave them a feeling of self-worth, accomplishment, and social activity.
With the new much higher wage that would have to be paid those companies couldn't afford the pay and those receiving it would have had their other benefits outside employment threatened with ending--something they could ill afford. So, their jobs disappeared. It was bad for them, bad for the economy, bad for the employers.

As for homelessness... I doubt raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour will find more of them employed. On the other hand, it may very well increase their numbers...

[Nordberg]

people see. to be guided by their own misconceptions of fast-food workers,
40 percent are 25 or older
the ave age is 29
26 percent are parents with kids
31 percent some college
https://groundswell.org/fast-food-mi...ith%20children.
When FDR passed the min wage, he said it was a living wage, adding that companies that pay less have no reason to exist in America.

[LV426]

Here in Arizona when the minimum wage laws were changed about the same time, the new law had no exemptions written into it. One particular industry / business sector basically ceased to exist within months losing about 7,000 jobs. That was companies that employed the severely handicapped.

This sounds like half-truth bullshit to me, so you're gonna have to source this wild claim.

[T. A. Gardner]

This sounds like half-truth bullshit to me, so you're gonna have to source this wild claim.

You don't source anything why should I have to on your demand?

[LV426]

You don't source anything why should I have to on your demand?

I source all the time, and in fact, I even sourced to the tax brackets on this very thread because of how fucking wrong you were about them.

Stahp.

[T. A. Gardner]

I source all the time, and in fact, I even sourced to the tax brackets on this very thread because of how fucking wrong you were about them.

Stahp.

No you don't.

But just to make you happy...

Due to a twist in Arizona's new minimum-wage law, several thousand disabled workers could be out of jobs next month.

To avert the potential layoffs, disability advocates are scrambling to persuade the state Legislature to return before year's end in a special session to fix what they call an unintended consequence of the popular minimum-wage law.

At issue is whether the law, which takes effect Jan. 1 and requires a $6.75 hourly wage, applies to employers who currently pay less than the minimum wage to disabled workers.

The "commensurate wage," permitted by federal law, allows a lower pay scale to reflect a worker's reduced ability.

https://azdailysun.com/news/state-an...0fe0d0c8a.html

When Arizona voters approved Proposition 202 in November to set the state’s minimum wage at $6.75 per hour, the new law did not include an exemption for developmentally disabled workers. Before Prop. 202, Arizona wages were controlled by the federally mandated minimum wage of $5.15 per hour and there was an exemption that allowed a lower hourly rate to be paid to workers of diminished productivity.

The “vast majority” of TCH’s workers “produce at 25-30 percent of the ‘norm’,” Cutty noted. Some work only two hours each day while others would require a full-time attendant if they worked in other businesses.

https://www.wranglernews.com/fp021707.htm

And, Biden's--And the Democrat's $15 wage plan would do it too:

Legislation involving the minimum wage aims to raise pay for people with severe disabilities but could result in eliminating their jobs.

Congressional Democrats recently introduced the Raise the Wage Act, which would increase the federal minimum wage from $7.25 an hour to $15 an hour by 2024. It would also stop the Department of Labor (DOL) from allowing certain employers to pay workers with significant disabilities less than the federal minimum wage.

https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/news/h...abilities.aspx