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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Fuck right the hell off.
    I Refuse!
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I Refuse!
    Whatever, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Just leaving them alone will solve everything? Are you truly this fucking stupid or what?

    You right wingnut BS artists have been whining about Ruby Ridge and Waco for years.....making excuses for an ex-con who violated his parole and then wouldn't comply with the Feds when they went to bring him in and opted for a shoot out....and then making excuses for a doomsday cult leader, who came on the ATF's radar for stockpiling illegal weapons, who had 1 full month to surrender to the feds, but instead chose suicide by cop. These are the people you defend.

    Then you blame law enforcement for the the Oklahoma City bombing, although the culprits were the documented violent white supremacist group Aryan nation.

    Unreal.

    But the clincher is that you had NO PROBLEM with the Patriot Act or the creation of Homeland Security so long as you thought it was anyone of islamic faith or middle eastern extraction that was the target....Now you're going to whine because the very system you condoned is now going after (yet another) outburst of anti-gov't/alt-right anarchy.

    Like I told you jokers almost 20 years ago...be careful what you wish for.
    Ruby Ridge:

    "After Randy Weaver, an outspoken white separatist living on a mountaintop in northern Idaho, was entrapped by an undercover federal agent, U.S. marshals trespassed on Weaver’s land and killed his 14-year-old son, Sammy. The following day, FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi killed his wife, Vicki, as she was standing in the cabin doorway. Horiuchi had previously shot Randy Weaver in the back after he stepped out of the cabin. The suspects were never given a warning or a chance to surrender and had taken no action against FBI agents. Weaver survived."
    The Marshals fired first, killing Weaver's family pet.
    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...-at-ruby-ridge

    WACO:

    "The question of who fired first is in dispute. ATF agents who participated in the raid have testified in court and at a congressional hearing that the Branch Davidians fired the first shots. Right after the raid, however, one ATF agent told an investigator that a fellow agent may have shot first, when he killed a dog outside the compound.. The agent later retracted the statement, saying that the Branch Davidians had initiated the gunfire."

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...co/topten.html

    Why did the agent retract his original statement? Pressure from fellow agents? The ATF? The FBI?

    "These two photos, one from a video tape, the other from a film camera, show the first moments of the BATF raid at the Mt. Carmel church. Note the bullet holes in the walls of the church. None of the glass in any of the vehicles the BATF are hiding behind show any signs of being cracked or broken."

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA.../WACO/waco.php

    "“The tank came into the front doors, the two double doors… and they just blew everything back,” said Thibodeau, who was inside the compound when the agents stormed in. “It was amazing to see a tank come through your living room.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/survivors-...ry?id=52034435


    "The FBI then became embroiled in a 51-day standoff with Koresh at the compound. During this time, negotiators arranged for the release of 35 Branch Davidians, including 21 children. But on April 19, 1993, in an attempt to lure Koresh and his followers out, agents took decisive action that critics later called extreme or unwarranted: They rammed the building with tanks and launched a tear-gas assault. The structure caught fire (the cause of the fire is still debated), and 76 Branch Davidians—which included 28 children—died in the flames."

    https://www.history.com/news/waco-si...le-known-facts

    Get your facts straight before spewing your psychobabble. You want a civil war? Bring it. We'll wait for you...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Militia groups have a long history of taking part in anti-government events and right-wing political protests.

    The Oath Keepers are an anti-government, pro-gun militia composed largely of former law enforcement and military veterans “who believe that the federal government has been co-opted by a shadowy conspiracy that is trying to strip American citizens of their rights,” according to the F.B.I. The name of the Three Percenters, an anti-government group, is a reference to the purported 3 percent of the American colonial population that rose up to fight the British Army in the Revolution.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/u...-militias.html
    So? The SS went after anti-government groups also. So did the KGB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    NY Times link. Utter garbage. The NY Times is best used to wrap fresh fish with.
    That'll ruin the fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    The FBI has known about Trump's ties to organized crime and his racketeering for decades but yet here we are.
    What ties to organized crime? What racketeering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The FBI will arrest people in militias.
    So? It's no different from the KGB or the SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    I spotted a lot of propaganda. If you can't, you suck.

    Also you got jipped on your education.
    It's half facts and half propaganda.
    That amounts to garbage.
    Flash is easily taken in by garbage like this. He has a reading comprehension problem. It shows when he tries to quote the Constitution. He likes to take stuff out of context a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Propaganda can also be factual.
    That one's a classic! I'm putting that ridiculous comment in my signature!
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Did those FBI arrests of militia members occur? If it did, that was the main point.
    Big hairy deal. The SS and the KGB arrested anti-government group members also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    The purges have arrived. I hope they are only going after the criminal ones. Not the non criminal ones, otherwise it's very Stalinist.
    It's very Stalinist. It's very much like Hitler or Mussolini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Elucidate, my child, elucidate. What SPECIFICALLY in the article can you logically and factually prove is propaganda. None of your generalized supposition and conjecture clap trap. PUOSU.
    You deny both logic and the meaning of the word 'fact' and 'proof'. Denial of logic. Doublespeak. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    If Biden wants to unify the country he wouldn't ONLY arrest right wing militias but also left wing militias.
    Biden has no interest in unifying the country, except by force. Yes. Gulags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Where are the armed left-wing militias? Never heard of any.
    Antifa. BLM. KKK. Shall I go on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    There were groups among the Capitol Rioters who obviously knew where they were going and what they were looking for. That takes organization and planning.

    The big question is how far up the Trump administration was there contact with these assholes?

    Arrests:
    https://www.usatoday.com/storytellin...t-mob-arrests/
    Capitol riot arrests: See who's been charged across the U.S.
    Rachel Axon, Dinah Pulver, Rachel Stassen-Berger, Jayme Fraser, Josh Salman, Nicholas Penzenstadler, Katie Wedell, Morgan Hines, David Baratz


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55626148
    Capitol riots: Who has the FBI arrested so far?
    More than 200 case files have been opened. According to the FBI, more than 100 arrests have been made in connection with the Capitol siege.

    Michael Sherwin, US Attorney for the District of Columbia, said officials are looking at "significant felony cases" tied to sedition and conspiracy.
    They were Antifa and BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Does that make you happy? That Biden might be killed by traitors?
    Upholding the Constitution is not treason. Trying to discard it to implement an oligarchy is. This is what Biden, Pelosi, and Harris are doing.
    He should be imprisoned for his crimes, including aiding terrorist organizations, aiding and abetting election fraud, corruption involving the Ukraine and China. But then, treason is still punishable by death. Usually they just send 'em to a federal penitentiary now.
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