Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
The answer is pretty straight forward actually.
He has been impeached and yes it will continue after he is out of office although there is a rule that a person can't be tossed out of office before a senate trial concludes so we will see if Trump tries that.
Either way the only penalty that congress can impose on him is the inability to ever hold federal office again so basically it is a complete waste of time.
They just want to make a dumb political statement instead of actually running the nation.
And this is going to completely tie up the senate.
Even Biden thinks it was stupid because it effectively stops his administration cold.
Since democrats control the house they have a little control over the speed of the trial but republicans can still delay it for quite a long time.
Ultimately the democrats will have to call for a vote without a thorough investigation being done and if found guilty then Trump would take it to the Supreme Court.
So the democrats kind of fucked themselves here and they have midterms in two years. If they don't get anything done there is zero chance of them keeping congress.
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..
De Oppresso Liber
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
Why does it matter? trump has been impeached (for a second time) before he left office. The trial will happen after he leaves office.
Trials can only be held if there is a material decision to be made. For instance, if a suspect dies, the trial is usually ended. No point in deciding whether someone goes to prison, if they are dead and will not go to prison.
At first, that would sound like the impeachment trial should end. trump would already be removed from office, so why have a trial to decide if he should be removed from office. There is a second thing to decide, whether trump should be banned from office. That is a real material issue.
If Democrats are thinking purely of self interest, they would prefer he be allowed to run again. trump will definitely get the nomination in 2024, and just as certainly lose the general election. That is the perfect combination for Democrats. But Democrats are also thinking of the country, so will probably vote to convict.
If Republicans are thinking purely of self interest, and it were a secret vote, they would vote to convict, for above reasons. trump is tearing the Republican Party apart. The problem is Republicans cannot be seen to be against trump, or they will be destroyed in primaries.
So look to Democrats voting to convict, and Republicans suddenly being called away from town.
Althea (01-18-2021)
trump has been impeached, so it has to go to the Senate. It would be unconstitutional to not take the impeachment to the Senate. The Senate does not have to vote on it. They can ignore it completely, or just have a vote on it without a thorough investigation.
It is odd that you accuse Democrats of not wanting a thorough investigation. Last time around it was Republicans who did not want a thorough investigation, and almost certainly it will be Republicans again. A thorough investigation will dredge up all sorts of bad things for Republicans.
trump may try to take this to the Supreme Court, but the Constitution and the precedence is pretty strong that the Supreme Court has no say on the matter. In other words, it will just be a waste of time and money.
Althea (01-18-2021)
An impeachment is like an indictment. trump has been impeached. Leaving office will not change that. It has already happened, in the past tense. After the impeachment, or indictment, there is a trial. Maybe Republicans can stop the trial, because that will happen after trump leaves office. If trump dies, then the trial will definitely end. But there is no way to reverse the impeachment. It has completely happened.
My reading of the Constitution says no.Can you impeach a former president ?
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
Truth Detector (01-18-2021)
trump was impeached when he was president. The impeachment trial would happen sometime in the future, but the impeachment has already happened.
As long as there is a material issue to be settled, usually trials continue. So as long as trump could run for office, the trial would usually continue. If trump died, I see no reason for a trial.
After a little thought, I will add that neither of us get to make this decision. The Supreme Court does not get to make this decision. The House does not get to make this decision. It is the Senate who makes this decision. If the Senate sees no need for a trial, for any reason, there is no appeal. If the Senate decides on a trial, likewise, there is no appeal.
We can all whine about it all we want, but the Senate decides for their own reasons.
They can't just ignore it because Trump is allowed a defense so there are certain procedures which have to be followed like allowing unlimited witness to testify.
If the democrats don't allow that and rush a vote there can't be a conviction due to them not allowing a fair trial.
It will go down in history as two failed impeachments by the democrats which make them look like the fools they are.
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