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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    A lie, but I'm very happy to see I could bring two very different people together in unity to spread hate about me.

    No hate. Forum knows you're a troll. Sad life you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    No hate. Forum knows you're a troll. Sad life you have.
    Meh. Que Sera, Sera. Life goes on.
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    Lindsey Graham is on Fox News pushing to drop the impeachment, promises Trump will see everything differently in 5 months, agrees with the stimulus bill, but "won't bail out blue states who mismanaged their funds", hits dropping the impeachment again calling it a "Scarlet Letter Impeachment". I'll have to look that one up. I know about the old meaning, but not sure how this applies.

    This: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...ent-stand-down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Lindsey Graham is on Fox News pushing to drop the impeachment, promises Trump will see everything differently in 5 months, agrees with the stimulus bill, but "won't bail out blue states who mismanaged their funds", hits dropping the impeachment again calling it a "Scarlet Letter Impeachment". I'll have to look that one up. I know about the old meaning, but not sure how this applies.

    This: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...ent-stand-down
    Graham is irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Graham is irrelevant
    So Biden's comments about unity are a lie? Figures, but thanks for clarifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Hate to say I called it. Well, I don't - but I certainly wasn't the only one.

    I don't like to see it, though. We need at least 2 strong parties in the U.S. One decided to take a detour down the rabbit hole, and he's right - it will take them many years to recover.
    Agreed. It looks like the Republicans are going to have to rebuild for a few years here, maybe past a Harris Presidency in 2024.

    It also opens the door for more Republicans to flock to the LP rather than stay with a Cult of Personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    In a panel discussion 2/3s of the way through today's Chris Wallace show on Fox News, the conversation turned to the disposition of the Republican party post-Trump. Karl Rove talked most about it while another panelist told how the party was split 50/50 between those who put the Republicans first or Trump. Rove said it was a civil war between the groups and whether Trump had a significant influence on the party after next week would determine the direction of the party. It was also implied that the party was headed for collapse if something wasn't done.
    The question is when do they start rebuilding? After such a huge defeat, normally a party starts immediately. Many in the base refuse to accept this defeat, so are refusing to even start rebuilding.

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    On a side note, CNN ratings are soaring while Fox's has plummeted.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/media...ngs/index.html
    Since the day after the election, CNN has been No. 1 in the 25- to 54-year-old demographic that the cable news business is built on.

    Fox's audience has always skewed older, so Fox has always had total viewer bragging rights, even when CNN notched victories in younger demographics. But for the past nine straight days, CNN has also been No. 1 in the total viewer race.

    This surge has been driven by the big news out of Washington, from the insurrection to the impeachment vote. January 6, which began with Senate runoff news and continued with the pro-Trump riot at the Capitol, was CNN's most-watched day in its history.

    MSNBC has been No. 2 many days, benefiting from some of the same factors but not nearly to the same extent.

    This month to date, CNN has averaged 2.08 million viewers throughout the day; MSNBC has averaged 1.74 million; and Fox has averaged 1.41 million. Even in prime time, when Fox is at its strongest, it has been stuck in third place. Already, CNN's post-election victories have enhanced CNN's position in the marketplace. The network has been running "MOST WATCHED CABLE NEWS NETWORK" ads on the air this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The question is when do they start rebuilding? After such a huge defeat, normally a party starts immediately. Many in the base refuse to accept this defeat, so are refusing to even start rebuilding.
    My guess is the evening of the 20th.

    The Trump base is their biggest obstacle.

    There's an old saying that diplomacy is learning how to say "Nice Doggie" while reaching for a rock. The indications are the rebuild will take "several" years. To me that's six years; Harris's midterms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    When are you going to start the lynchings to kill off these enemies of the United States?
    Lynchings are what Republicans do. Democrats use the law. We'll have a competent and fair department of justice under Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Lindsey Graham is on Fox News pushing to drop the impeachment, promises Trump will see everything differently in 5 months, agrees with the stimulus bill, but "won't bail out blue states who mismanaged their funds", hits dropping the impeachment again calling it a "Scarlet Letter Impeachment". I'll have to look that one up. I know about the old meaning, but not sure how this applies.

    This: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...ent-stand-down
    Graham voiced his real feelings when the adrenaline was still pumping through his veins. He was then summoned to Air Force One and reminded of the consequences for disloyalty.

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    Karl Rove on Chris Wallace: "It will take years for the Republican Party to rebuild"
    of course it will.....probably two......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Not my side, but nice try at whataboutism/deflection.
    owl is already abandoning the left.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Graham voiced his real feelings when the adrenaline was still pumping through his veins. He was the summoned to Air Force One and reminded of the consequences for disloyalty.
    He was giving Trump a public handy as fast as he could. It reminded me of the maxim "Caught between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I don't mind honest disagreements, but DutchUncle is just a contrarian troll.
    he's a Legion wannabe.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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