Marine Corps General tells Pelosi to pound sand

[Walt]

What does that have to do with an actual event?

Is it an actual event? It is an internet rumor on a right wing conspiracy cite that posts bizarre "facts" that never are proven true.

The US Marines are not the best people to provide guards. The National Guard would be the direction to go. Luckily, there are now National Guard troops from Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware, now in DC. All three states have Democratic Governors commanding those troops.

DC's National Guard is under trump's command, until noon on January 20th, but it is the most heavily Black/Democratic National Guard in the US, and would not obey unconstitutional orders from trump.

trump might have some more luck with the US Marines, but somehow I doubt it.

[Eagle_Eye]

Agreed 100%. Unfortunately, and as we all know there were ex-military participating in the insurrection along with Timothy McVeigh's crew being ex-military, AFAIK, they were never charged with violating their oath.

Maybe this assault on our Capitol and attempt to overthrow the nation will see that change.

LTC Larry Brock has dishonored all military veterans. I hope he pays a steep price for doing so.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/gr...rsday/2528858/
Larry Rendell Brock Jr, the Grapevine man facing federal charges for his role in the riot at the U.S. Capitol last week, was released Thursday from the Parker County jail.

He made no comment as he rushed into a waiting car.

A federal judge declined to keep Brock locked in jail until his trial. He was arrested by the FBI on Sunday and was charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building and violent entry and disorderly conduct.

Investigators said images show Brock, 53, on the Senate floor of the U.S. Capitol. In one of the images, he's seen wearing body armor and a helmet while holding zip-tie restraints.

Dallas FBI Special Agent John Moore was the only witness to take the stand.

He testified that Brock was once fired from a job for making racist and threatening comments. The agent also testified to social media postings by Brock where he said, 'I bought a helmet and body armor for the civil war that is coming.'

The New Yorker reported Brock told them he found the restraints and planned to give them to the police.

Prosecutors argued because of his military background skills and actions he should be detained as a threat to the public.

Brock's court-appointed federal defense attorney argued Brock was unarmed, and there's no proof of him causing harm to anyone or damage at the Capitol.

The judge agreed the charges were not enough to hold him.

He did put Brock under strict rules of no possession of firearms, limited online access, and electronic location monitoring.

The judge warned violations could add more federal charges.

NBC 5 Investigates learned Brock is a highly decorated former U.S. Air Force combat pilot with more than two decades of service to his country. On Monday, Brock was lead into a courtroom by U.S. Marshals, handcuffed, legs chained, and dressed in a black T-shirt and jeans. He politely answered questions from a federal magistrate, “Yes, sir."

It is not yet clear if Brock was required to post bond before being released.

Once your time is up you are no longer subject to the UCMJ. I agree with that as we give up many freedoms when we take the oath. That said The oath to me is a moral responsibility not a legal one once one leaves the service.

[Doc Dutch]

Once your time is up you are no longer subject to the UCMJ. I agree with that as we give up many freedoms when we take the oath. That said The oath to me is a moral responsibility not a legal one once one leaves the service.

For non-retirees, I agree. That explains why nothing additional was done to McVeigh and, IMO, will be done to STY.

OTOH, you, me and Larry "the Cable Guy" Brock are still subject to the UCMJ to a point: https://va.org/retainer-vs-retired/
Military retirement pay differs from civilian retirement pay systems in that there’s no vesting, no matching funds, no interest, and no special retirement accounts. Military retirees abide by a code of laws particular to them called the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), which enables them to be court-martialed for misbehavior during their retirement. A military retiree is subject to be obligatorily returned to active duty for reasons deemed appropriate by the military.


When I mentioned this to my wife she expressed a bit of concern "You mean you can be recalled to duty???"

"Yes, but they'd have to reach pretty deep into the fucking bag to need me."

[Lionfish]

Is it an actual event? It is an internet rumor on a right wing conspiracy cite that posts bizarre "facts" that never are proven true.

The US Marines are not the best people to provide guards. The National Guard would be the direction to go. Luckily, there are now National Guard troops from Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware, now in DC. All three states have Democratic Governors commanding those troops.

DC's National Guard is under trump's command, until noon on January 20th, but it is the most heavily Black/Democratic National Guard in the US, and would not obey unconstitutional orders from trump.

trump might have some more luck with the US Marines, but somehow I doubt it.

Err..This was pelosi ordering the Marines.

[Concart]

Err..This was pelosi ordering the Marines.

Err.... no, this was someone making up a fake story.

[Walt]

Err..This was pelosi ordering the Marines.

According to an internet rumor said by right wing conspiracy cites.

How stupid do you think Berger is? There is no way on earth he would say the Speaker of the House had "poisonous lips". She decides whether he gets funding, keeps his job, and what rules he lives by. This is a man who rose through the ranks by knowing how to politely respond to superiors, and he is not going to suddenly lose that now.

So you have a request I doubt was made, followed by a response that is impossible to have been made.

[cloud9]

Marine Corps. Rebukes Pelosi: “WE DON’T WORK FOR YOU!”

“Don’t lecture me on patriotism, Madam Speaker. I’ve served this country with distinction for 40 years. I’ve spilled blood for our nation. What have you, a self-serving elected official, done for your country?” Gen. Berger said.

Pelosi further enraged him by saying he was answerable to Congress.

“I answer only to the president, and as I understand it, Donald J. Trump is still president and commander-in-chief. I abide in the Constitution as it was written, not your interpretation of it,” Gen. Berger admonished Pelosi."

https://realrawnews.com/2021/01/mari...-work-for-you/

I salute this General as a true patriot.

this is 100% a made-up story from a garbage source.

[Walt]

this is 100% a made-up story from a garbage source.

It doesn't even make sense as a story.

[PostmodernProphet]

odd.....I thought the lib'ruls were highly in favor of the Posse Comitatus Act....

[PostmodernProphet]

Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
BTW, this never happened. Pelosi has forgotten more about the law and the constitution than the OP ever knew.

I for one consider it unfortunate she has forgotten so much about the law and the constitution.......

[Concart]

odd.....I thought the lib'ruls were highly in favor of the Posse Comitatus Act....

We are. Did you have a point?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Marine Corps. Rebukes Pelosi: “WE DON’T WORK FOR YOU!”

Here’s another scoop from “Real Raw News”:


Trump Indicts Dr. Fauci; Charged as Enemy Combatant

The United States Justice Department, on behalf of President Donald J. Trump, has finalized a sealed indictment naming Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the coronavirus taskforce, a traitor to America, according to a Washington sources familiar with the issue.

Sources close to the Fauci probe said Trump became suspicious of Fauci’s intentions after reading Tweets linking the doctor to a “Deep State” coup designed to cripple his reelection campaign … The Tweets surmise the Coronavirus is a pretext for stripping Americans of the rights and freedoms they hold dear, and that Fauci wants to usher in a New World Order that would abolish the Constitution and replace U.S. leaders with United Nations personnel.

https://realrawnews.com/2020/12/trum...emy-combatant/


I bet some of their well-informed readers believe it.

[Nordberg]

The military trained the rioters. They are a big part of those who seek to overthrow the country. They are not patriotic. They are the white supremacists too.

[PostmodernProphet]

According to an internet rumor said by right wing conspiracy cites.

How stupid do you think Berger is? There is no way on earth he would say the Speaker of the House had "poisonous lips". She decides whether he gets funding, keeps his job, and what rules he lives by. This is a man who rose through the ranks by knowing how to politely respond to superiors, and he is not going to suddenly lose that now.

So you have a request I doubt was made, followed by a response that is impossible to have been made.

dude......your bread and butter for four years was fake news.......you NancyDanced a president twice based on fake news.......it's a bit later for you to step forward and declare yourself the standard of truth.........

[PostmodernProphet]

We are. Did you have a point?

duplicity always has two points......