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    "Since 1990, the fraction of Americans with no religious affiliation has nearly tripled, from about 8 percent to 22 percent. Over the next 20 years, this trend will accelerate: by 2020, there will be more of these "Nones" than Catholics, and by 2035, they will outnumber Protestants."

    This is why the Christian Nationalists feel they must take over the Government. They know they are losing Membership.

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    The longer version of her article on her blog is notable for these observations:

    The precipitous belief in God is limited to the demographic of people who have an unshakable belief in God and zero doubts God exists. That itself probably explains a decline in church attendance.

    The demographic that is increasing are the people who believe in the possibility/probability of God, but have doubts about it.

    The author draws a bimodal distinction between a group of people who think the bible is literally true, and those who think it is fables. There is no strict bimodal distribution in the population. The author's approach is biased in assuming that biblical literalism and inerrancy is representative of Christianity. Biblical literalism is a tenet of the Protestant tradition. Biblical literalism is not a tenet of Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy.

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    "Biblical literalism is not a tenet of Roman Catholicism".

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    not good. we have no morals. politics is a literal blood sport. people have no idea of the common good -just me me me
    Not that religion guarantees any of this is abated - but we have lost all sense of what the founders called Providence

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    There's hope for us yet then. May I quote from your link for our factually-challenged RW friends?

    "Since 1990, the fraction of Americans with no religious affiliation has nearly tripled, from about 8 percent to 22 percent. Over the next 20 years, this trend will accelerate: by 2020, there will be more of these "Nones" than Catholics, and by 2035, they will outnumber Protestants.

    "The following figure shows changes since 1972 and these predictions, based on data from the General Social Survey (GSS):


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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    not good. we have no morals. politics is a literal blood sport. people have no idea of the common good -just me me me
    Not that religion guarantees any of this is abated - but we have lost all sense of what the founders called Providence
    Perhaps so. I'll point out that the party and IMPOTUSx2 that shows the least amount of principle, honor, ethics, morality is the one that starts with (R). Ironically, they are the same ppl who claim to be ever-so-in-with-Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    not good. we have no morals. politics is a literal blood sport. people have no idea of the common good -just me me me
    Not that religion guarantees any of this is abated - but we have lost all sense of what the founders called Providence
    You need a God to tell you what's right and what's wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    You need a God to tell you what's right and what's wrong?
    of course not.
    Buddhism has no gods, and is greatly concerned wiht a just and moral life to aid "good karma"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    "Biblical literalism is not a tenet of Roman Catholicism".
    Origen of Alexandria, Saint Augustine, other apostolic church fathers wrote that the new and old testaments should be read and interpreted at an allegorical level.


    Catholic doctrine, broadly speaking and with exceptions, is that interpretations of the bible are provisional and should be changed depending on the current state of human knowlege in natural philosophy and science -- aka, interpretations and understandings of the bible are not inerrant and ironclad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Perhaps so. I'll point out that the party and IMPOTUSx2 that shows the least amount of principle, honor, ethics, morality is the one that starts with (R). Ironically, they are the same ppl who claim to be ever-so-in-with-Jesus.
    Dukkie is a moron of the Trump variety. My friends who are atheists, agnostic and pagan are far more moral than many Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    of course not.
    Buddhism has no gods, and is greatly concerned wiht a just and moral life to aid "good karma"
    So your "not good. we have no morals. politics is a literal blood sport. people have no idea of the common good -just me me me
    Not that religion guarantees any of this is abated - but we have lost all sense of what the founders called Providence" spiel doesn't have anything to do with 'religion'. (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    of course not.
    Buddhism has no gods, and is greatly concerned wiht a just and moral life to aid "good karma"
    So you just pay lip service to Buddhism, but don't actually practice it. Got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So you just pay lip service to Buddhism, but don't actually practice it. Got it.
    That’s my observation as well, all hat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Origen of Alexandria, Saint Augustine, other apostolic church fathers wrote that the new and old testaments should be read and interpreted at an allegorical level.


    Catholic doctrine, broadly speaking and with exceptions, is that interpretations of the bible are provisional and should be changed depending on the current state of human knowlege in natural philosophy and science -- aka, interpretations and understandings of the bible are not inerrant and ironclad.
    So ... what was the beef with Copernicus and Galileo?

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