Hello and welcome Lionfish,
Please note:
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
If agreed I hope we have many interesting discussions. If not then we won't be talking long.
All 50 separate elections were certified by the States. The American people do not want Trump. We never did. He lost the popular vote in every national election he ever ran in. He barely squeaked by in the EC in 2016, and he lost it in 2020. Fair and square, he is the loser in a valid election.
An argument has been made that some States made illegal election changes which favored the Democrats. That is false. The changes were made to make it safer to vote during the deadly worldwide pandemic. These changes were available to all voters. Nothing made it any easier for Democrats to vote which was not every bit as available to Republicans as it was to Democrats.
Fair election.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Hello Michael_Panetta,
And that is what makes our politics so corrosive, our nation so bitterly divided, and the dominance of legal big moneyed corruption secure.
If Democrats and Republicans could just stop fighting long enough to join forces against legalized corruption, our nation could advance like flipping a light switch.
The rich and powerful have us neatly divided and conquered. Totally works for them.
It is bizarre how the more shocking the news is each day, our nation coming unglued, the federal debt skyrocketing, the more money they make and the higher the market goes.
It almost seems to be a directly inverse proportion.
The worse the news is, the higher the stock market goes.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Doc Dutch (01-15-2021)
Into the Night (01-16-2021), PoliTalker (01-15-2021)
Appears “nightingale” is a true InfoWars believer, now he has the FBI lying, McCarthy lying, and Antifa all over the storming of the Capital, must have been wearing all the Trump paraphernalia in disguise, Soros probably bought it for them
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him .........
In your understanding, the election “issues” are never ever going to go away, unless Trump admitted the truth that he lied, for the rest of your life, regardless of any evidence, you are never going to believe anything otherwise.
Nothing personal, but you are a perfect example of the post, Trump could end all the nonsense and potential violence by just stating the truth
Into the Night (01-16-2021)
Not that it would matter, for the reasons I stated above, but did you even wonder why no one else involved in the 2020 election is seemingly still crying they were robbed, that the election was fixed? Democrats and Republicans won and lost, but it seems Trump is the only candidate echoing it was all fixed against him. Is it just coincidental that Trump is the only loser crying today over supposed fraudulent elections?
PoliTalker (01-15-2021)
There are certainly a lot of elements it was planned, meaning the attack on the Capitol was premeditated and coordinated.
A mob's IQ is inversely correlated with the size of the mob. You can't easily stop a stampede, but you can easily start one.
Remember a few old westerns which used a cattle stampede to wipe out the "injuns" or the "settlers"? The goal was to initiate a stampede toward an objective, a target. Then all that needed to be done was 1) stay out of the way and 2) either follow close behind to achieve further objectives or remain well clear to avoid further risks or consequences.
Starting a stampede requires elements. In a cattle stampede, the more cattle the better. Scare them so much they run on pure emotion. For cattle, fear is the best emotion to motivate because it, like a virus, it spreads fast and takes over any thoughts of caution. They panic.
People are easily motivated by fear but they are also easily motivated by anger. Anger that has been whipped up for almost 30 years. Trump didn't build that anger, but as he has so often done, he's exploited it for his own benefit. Since it benefitted him, he's spent the past four years maximizing it. The attack on the Capitol was his masterpiece. The final act of a showman so great that he won't easily be forgotten.
Here's the funniest part. Salesmanship is Trump's superpower. He's not very smart otherwise. He sees weaknesses and exploits them to his own end. Past that, he's a big blob that harms everyone around him, including his own family. Trump did what he always does; pass the work down and take any credit when he likes. He'll throw Other People's Money at the problem but spending as little as possible of his own. Hire someone to take care of it, even his own kid, then walk away like the Stormy Daniels "problem".
IMO, worked backwards, this chain will prove to be the undoing of someone in the Trump family. My #1 pick is Junior with Ivanka as #2. She's certainly got what a lot of Trump's idiots would die for.
Jared is the smartest and, like Pence, turn a blind eye and walk away. Just my two cents worth.
Last edited by Doc Dutch; 01-15-2021 at 01:25 PM.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
PoliTalker (01-15-2021)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
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