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    Actually Trump's popularity is going up not dropping. He will be more popular than ever thanks to all the haters.

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Charter schools are public schools that are given the freedom to be creative with content and teaching styles. If you don't like the current results of our education system, which you just stated you don't, then quit fighting to maintain our mid 20th century one size fits all top down model. You're basically saying I don't like the results but I don't want change either.
    Oh, I want change, but that would have to come from Republicans since they control most of the States and thus most of the education system. That it is performing poorly is a reflection on them. There is no inherent reason that a public system can't do well. It certainly does in other countries who out-educate us with their public systems.

    And that is not by mistake. Republicans know that if voters were smarter they would probably not be getting as many votes. After all, Trump himself said he likes the uneducated. We know why. They are easier to con.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Keep in mind that they are in the process of becoming a fringe group. The insurrection at the Capitol the other day nailed their coffin
    I really, really hope that you are right about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    His RCP average of major polls just fell below 40% approval.

    Currently 39.4%.

    Amazing what it took to get it down there.
    Amazing that it’s still that high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Not the failure of education but the success if right-wing propaganda on the net.
    Typically, you’ll find those people gullible enough to fall for the conspiracy BS are less educated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    Oh, I want change, but that would have to come from Republicans since they control most of the States and thus most of the education system. That it is performing poorly is a reflection on them. There is no inherent reason that a public system can't do well. It certainly does in other countries who out-educate us with their public systems.

    And that is not by mistake. Republicans know that if voters were smarter they would probably not be getting as many votes. After all, Trump himself said he likes the uneducated. We know why. They are easier to con.
    Republicans are trying to make changes by allowing for charter schools and school choice (for starters). Your idea of 'reform' is simply spending more money on our current system which is something we already do.

    There's a definite irony here when your tagline says 'diversity makes greatness' when what you really want is basically everyone to think the same way you do politically. That's not diversity.

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Republicans are trying to make changes by allowing for charter schools and school choice (for starters). Your idea of 'reform' is simply spending more money on our current system which is something we already do.

    There's a definite irony here when your tagline says 'diversity makes greatness' when what you really want is basically everyone to think the same way you do politically. That's not diversity.
    I appreciate that you have different views. I want to hear them. If I as a liberal get some crazy ideas I need you as a conservative to point out why they might not work. So far, you're not raising any objections to my view that have caused me to reconsider. Seems like you're simply taking the 'don't trust the government to do anything' approach. We have to support our public institutions or our nation dies. It always amazes me that smart people who are the product of public schools themselves take a position that suddenly public schools are no good any more.

    Really, we both know why struggling schools are struggling. Schools in a poor area don't get as much funding. The ones in the rich areas do. But there are now enough very rich people who want to send THEIR kids to an upscale private school, so they don't want to pay for public education any more. So the demand for public schools for rich kids has dropped. The remainder of public school children are from the lower income strata, and go to the neglected schools. Republicans are quick to come in and offer a better option for them - at a price. The whole thing is turning into a scam. It represents a further separation of haves and the have-nots. It contributes to the polarization of our society. We are creating a social class system. No, I don't like it. We should not be doing that. We should create an excellent public school system that everyone would be proud to send their kids to and pay whatever that costs in government funding because it is worth it to society to have a smarter populace. China is putting us to shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Cinnabar,



    The sad part is there are still 33% who approve of his job performance.

    It represents a failure of our educational system.
    & anyone think he is gonna walk away voluntarily & leave that power & money on the table??

    He is like a fly to shit~ he is gonna cash in on that & broker that..

    If he starts his own party & they leave, & I don't see why they would not, moscow mitch & the rest of the gop is doomed for many, many years to come, if not gone for ever
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    More humanities less STEM. Heck these right wing morons need to learn comportment and basic fucking table manners,
    much less how to ask a woman to dance, take her hand and to properly lead a waltz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    A smarter nation would have been better able to see through Trump's con.
    IMHO it is not a lack of intelligence or education but rather a desire for trump to be what they have imagined him to be~ what he told them he was, what he sold himself as, & they bought hook, line & stinker..

    trump told them what they wanted to hear, from his attack on Mexicans up to his attack on the capital......

    I have never found a good, simple way to explain this.

    It is really a desire for it to be true & a unwillingness to apply critical thinking & questioning for him..

    To admit he is wrong etc. is "felt" as a reflection on self & serves to further harden ones position....

    As many have pointed out, this kinda thinking is akin to a cult & no amount of truth or evidence is going to persuade them~ their beliefs in him are not based on logic but rather emotion & some kinda deep seeded desire to protect him & as an extension-self.........

    I have posted threads on this, & a few fairly recently from the NPR program hidden brain which deals w/ several aspects of this including how contrary (to strongly held beliefs)information/truths often push ppl to strengthen their beliefs, even when faced w/ indisputable facts..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    Actually Trump's popularity is going up not dropping.
    The Alt Right is willing to say any unsupported claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Overplayed his hand.
    News polls are completely meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Trump's Approval Rating IMPLODES.
    Irrelevant.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    News polls are completely meaningless.
    Your guy is a loser and you are a loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    More humanities less STEM. Heck these right wing morons need to learn comportment and basic fucking table manners,
    much less how to ask a woman to dance, take her hand and to properly lead a waltz!
    I would be happy if schools taught civics

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