"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
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Hello Bill,
Great show. I listened to that. Neatly explains how people can believe things that simply are not true. Humans are kind of programmed to do that because the same way we learn things that are true, is the method we can learn things that are not true. It can be very difficult to tell the difference. A lot of it has to do with the source. If a human trusts the source of information, they may not stop to wonder if the information is correct. And if many of their trusted contacts believe a thing, they will tend to believe it even if there is credible evidence that it is not true.
I liked all the examples from history about how false ideas spread in the past, and how sticky some of them can be, even when somebody figured out they were false and tried to tell others what was really true. The others would not believe it because it went against what they wanted to believe.
This is apparent in right wingers. Despite all the evidence that Trump is a chronic liar, if an individual has a lot of friends who support Trump, they will tend to do the same thing.
For an example of how powerful this phenomenon is, we need only look at our 50 individually certified elections. Despite the data that all these elections were officially certified, and Biden won, Trump supporters don't want to believe the truth. They prefer to believe Trump because they trust him. They don't want to believe the State governments because they don't trust government in general. So if Trump tells them the elections were stolen, and all their friends believe Trump, they will believe Trump too. Despite solid concrete evidence that this belief is not true. And further despite all the checks, challenges and court cases which conclude that Biden won.
What a powerful lesson in human nature.
I would recommend everyone find the time to listen to that podcast.
Naturally, since I am a liberal, conservatives should not listen because they don't trust me as a credible source of information. To listen to something a liberal agrees with and approves of, even recommends, would be breaking the 'conservative trust code.' The natural human thing to do is to reject information from a non credible source. Validity of information is up to the recipient.
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Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
cancel2 2022 (01-16-2021)
Tranquillus in Exile (01-16-2021)
uh, we spend more on our schools than almost all of them.......
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Into the Night (01-16-2021)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Into the Night (01-16-2021), TOP (01-16-2021)
1) school funding is first of all a local issue......
2) the DoE was started in 1980......
3) spending on education has always gone up.....
https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/b.../edhistory.pdf
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Into the Night (01-16-2021)
cancel2 2022 (01-16-2021), Into the Night (01-16-2021)
If you’ve missed the increased spending in education over the past couple of decades, especially in poorer urban areas, then no disrespect but that’s on you. At a certain point you have to pay attention and remained informed. (And that comment can apply to me on a number of issues so I’m not saying it holier than thou.). And if you aren’t familiar with why when spending increases yet teachers still have to pay for supplies then again, that info’s out there.
The problem is viewing this from strictly a Democrat/Republican perspective which is what you’re doing here. That doesn’t solve real problems
cancel2 2022 (01-16-2021)
More resources are almost always going to be better than less resources, but the reality is we don’t have unlimited resources. And to people who share Poli’s mindset it’s rarely ever about how well do we use the resources we have as opposed to no matter what we do the answer is always “we need more”
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cancel2 2022 (01-16-2021)
No Poli, it's not deflection. Often I'm happy to post links, data and info but if you really aren't aware of the amount of money we've spent on education then it's not worth my time. If you're interested then you'll read about it. And if you don't want to read, for example, that money goes to administrators and not the classroom and that's why teachers pay for their own supplies, then again its on you.
At a certain you have to have interest in the topic.
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