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    Default Hatred: The Inescapable Link Between Racism And Insecurity

    It is interesting how closely this describes the violent part of the right, and even some of our own posters:

    "Research has shown that when people are given reminders of their own mortality, they feel a sense of anxiety and insecurity, which they respond to by becoming more prone to status-seeking, materialism, greed, prejudice, and aggression."

    "According to Terror Management Theory, the motivation of these behaviors is to enhance one’s sense of significance or value in the face of death, or to gain a sense of security or belonging, as a way of protecting oneself against the threat of mortality. In my view, racism is a similar response to a more general sense of insignificance, unease, or inadequacy."

    "the most dangerous and destructive extreme of racism — people may project their own psychological flaws and their own personal failings onto another group, as a strategy of avoiding responsibility and blame. Other groups become scapegoats, and consequently are liable to punished, even attacked or murdered, in revenge for their alleged crimes. Individuals with strong narcissistic and paranoid personality traits are especially prone to this strategy, since they are unable to admit to any personal faults, and are especially likely to demonize others.

    A Correlation Between Racism and Psychological Ill Health

    In other words, racism is a symptom of psychological ill-health. It is a sign of a lack of psychological integration, a lack of self-esteem and inner security. "

    Any of this sound familiar?

    "It is also helpful to remember that there is no biological basis for dividing the human race into distinct "races." There are just groups of human beings — all of whom came from Africa originally — who developed slightly different physical characteristics over time as they traveled to, and adapted to, different climates and environments. The differences between us are very fuzzy and very superficial. Fundamentally, there are no races — just one human race. "

    The Psychology Of Racism
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    Politalker - I think everything you say is true of insecure people hating any groups of others on offer, but racism is an especially artificial construction, a fantasy created to justify colonialism and slavery (compare it with the real cultural differences between, say, Germans and Italians). I suppose it might be even more attractive to these people for that reason

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    Why do we hate? The reasons are complex, but following are some of the factors that may play a role in helping us understand hate and, hopefully, work toward change.

    Fear of “The Other”

    According to A.J. Marsden, assistant professor of psychology and human services at Beacon College in Leesburg, Florida, one reason we hate is because we fear things that are different from us.

    Behavioral researcher Patrick Wanis, cites the in-group out-group theory, which posits that when we feel threatened by perceived outsiders, we instinctively turn toward our in-group—those with whom we identify—as a survival mechanism. Wanis explains, “Hatred is driven by two key emotions of love and aggression: One love for the in-group—the group that is favored; and two, aggression for the out-group—the group that has been deemed as being different, dangerous, and a threat to the in-group.”

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    Hello Iolo/Penderyn,

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    Politalker - I think everything you say is true of insecure people hating any groups of others on offer, but racism is an especially artificial construction, a fantasy created to justify colonialism and slavery (compare it with the real cultural differences between, say, Germans and Italians). I suppose it might be even more attractive to these people for that reason
    Nothing defines the in-group and the out-group like ethnicity and geographical identity.

    But I still come back to the basic issue of insecurity.

    When people feel secure in their life they have no reason to hate others.

    Lacking that feeling of security, people feel insecurity. They are unhappy, troubled, looking for something to blame it on. If they feel like they have no control over their life then it must be others who are controlling the aspects they find so troubling. If they can just identify who is the cause of all their troubles then the burden of responsibility is lifted from their shoulders - it's someone else's fault!
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    It's difficult to enter into vices you don't share (I'm baffled by gambling, for instance), and I've never hated anyone since I said goodbye to our vicious PT master(what do you say - gym teacher?), a bullying scumbag. He had power over me, and I couldn't kick his arse him without being expelled from the school). I think it's helplessness that produces hate perhaps.

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    "Fear of Ourselves

    According to Washington, D.C., clinical psychologist Dana Harron, the things people hate about others are the things that they fear within themselves. She suggests thinking about the targeted group or person as a movie screen onto which we project unwanted parts of the self. The idea is, “I'm not terrible; you are.”

    This phenomenon is known as projection, a term coined by Freud to describe our tendency to reject what we don’t like about ourselves. Psychologist Brad Reedy further describes projection as our need to be good, which causes us to project "badness" outward and attack it:

    "We developed this method to survive, for any 'badness' in us put us at risk for being rejected and alone. So we repressed the things that we thought were bad (what others told us or suggested to us that was unlovable and morally reprehensible) — and we employ hate and judgment towards others. We think that is how one rids oneself of undesirable traits, but this method only perpetuates repression which leads to many mental health issues."

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    Yes - that would certainly connect the otherwise baffling addiction of fundamentalist 'Christians' to racism: their total failure to act in a Christian manner ever would leave them plenty to project onto those wicked enough once to have been enslaved.

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    Hello Iolo/Penderyn,

    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    It's difficult to enter into vices you don't share (I'm baffled by gambling, for instance), and I've never hated anyone since I said goodbye to our vicious PT master(what do you say - gym teacher?), a bullying scumbag. He had power over me, and I couldn't kick his arse him without being expelled from the school). I think it's helplessness that produces hate perhaps.
    I was lucky to have a good upbringing, but I didn't know it at the time.

    Once, as a very young and immature adult, I was curious about gambling. I decided to find out if I was lucky. I walked into a casino and bought $10 worth of quarters, plugged them one by one into a one-armed bandit, lost every single one of them, decided I was definitely not lucky, and walked out. I've never been back to a casino since. I concluded that no, I was not lucky, and that I should instead make my own luck. I should look for opportunity, seize it when I find it, and apply myself toward building a nice future. I did all that, built a great life, and now I actually do feel incredibly lucky! Just not in the same way that young man was curious about it back then.
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    Hello Iolo/Penderyn,

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    Yes - that would certainly connect the otherwise baffling addiction of fundamentalist 'Christians' to racism: their total failure to act in a Christian manner ever would leave them plenty to project onto those wicked enough once to have been enslaved.
    Religion was created to reflect the knowledge of the learned as a way of imparting wisdom on the greater illiterate masses. Recall that when most religions originated, only the most powerful and their minions were even able to read or write. Most people were unable. Religion was a way to communicate higher knowledge to the masses.

    Religion attempted to reduce higher knowledge into easier to understand teachings.

    Thus, we hear a phrase in that context: "Pride goeth before the fall."

    It really has nothing to do with a deity or supernatural overseer.

    It's simply wisdom.

    We have seen the rise of the so-called 'Proud Boys.'

    And now we are witnessing the fall.

    First they expressed their pride in themselves.

    And then they ran amok.

    And now they are falling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Iolo/Penderyn,



    I was lucky to have a good upbringing, but I didn't know it at the time.

    Once, as a very young and immature adult, I was curious about gambling. I decided to find out if I was lucky. I walked into a casino and bought $10 worth of quarters, plugged them one by one into a one-armed bandit, lost every single one of them, decided I was definitely not lucky, and walked out. I've never been back to a casino since. I concluded that no, I was not lucky, and that I should instead make my own luck. I should look for opportunity, seize it when I find it, and apply myself toward building a nice future. I did all that, built a great life, and now I actually do feel incredibly lucky! Just not in the same way that young man was curious about it back then.
    I had a similar experience. A girl I was fond of when I was fourteen had gambling friends: I played cards with them, and lost a week's wages in five minutes: end of that interest! I do hope the covid vaccine I've been given is half as effective.

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    Hello Iolo/Penderyn,

    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    I had a similar experience. A girl I was fond of when I was fourteen had gambling friends: I played cards with them, and lost a week's wages in five minutes: end of that interest! I do hope the covid vaccine I've been given is half as effective.
    I understand the odds to be quite a bit better than that.

    And yeah, I figured out a long time ago I should never play poker. I'm far too honest. My mother was way too good at reading my face. Every time I tried to lie she could see right through it. I ended up deciding it was so much work to try to deceive others that one might as well simply do fair work for a fair day's wages.
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    "Lack of Self-compassion

    The antidote to hate is compassion — for others as well as ourselves. Self-compassion means that we accept the whole self. “If we find part of ourselves unacceptable, we tend to attack others in order to defend against the threat,” says Reedy. “If we are okay with ourselves, we see others’ behaviors as ‘about them’ and can respond with compassion. If I kept hate in my heart for [another], I would have to hate myself as well. It is only when we learn to hold ourselves with compassion that we may be able to demonstrate it toward others.”"

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    The parallels between religion and hate-groups are stark.

    The individual who feels lost and insecure is able to find within the group everything they feel is missing in their life.

    It hardly matters whether the group is a church or a hate-group.

    Either will suffice.
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    "The answer to why we hate, according to Silvia Dutchevici, LCSW, president and founder of the Critical Therapy Center, lies not only in our psychological makeup or family history, but also in our cultural and political history. “We live in a war culture that promotes violence, in which competition is a way of life,” she says. “We fear connecting because it requires us to reveal something about ourselves. We are taught to hate the enemy — meaning anyone different than us — which leaves little room for vulnerability and an exploration of hate through empathic discourse and understanding. In our current society, one is more ready to fight than to resolve conflict. Peace is seldom the option.”"

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    Basically, if people felt better about being themselves, if they felt more secure, and had the capacity to really consider the feelings of others, ie: they have compassion, then they would not hate.

    People who respect others as much as they respect themselves do not hate.

    People who think little of themselves think little of others.

    If you do not love yourself, you cannot love others.
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