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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump has lost 9% of that 74 million already, so that is 67 million. Lets say he sticks at that, he continues to be able to get 40% of the vote, but no more...

    That would be the worst disaster possible for the Republicans. It is too much support to change their strategy, and too little to win general elections. They would become the "also ran" party. And that is McConnell's fear.

    If he can get rid of trump, he hopes the trump voters will have nowhere else to go, and stay in the Republican Party. he then hopes he can add to that more votes and get up to 50% or more.
    Trump has also been through the worst two week period of any president since Lincoln so I wouldn’t put a lot of stock in his *present* numbers. Keep in mind Biden hasn’t done anything yet—there is much that he and the Democrats can screw up and the ‘Trump years’ can start looking pretty good in the not too distant future.

    Again with democrats, they are a divided party. The only thing that has united democrats for four years has been Donald J. Trump. Ironically, it may be democrats that need Trump to stick around in order to hold their party together.

    The AOC wing is ascendant and has all the energy. The problem is democrats can’t win a national election running on socialism. That’s why the DNC kicked Bernie to the curb in the primaries. It would have been an electoral massacre putting Bernie up against a pre-COVID Trump.

    [thank you, CCP bastards]

    The moderate wing [basically the democrat establishment] has broader appeal nationally but it’s doubtful democrats can win a national election without having their radical wing engaged.

    What has kept them United?

    Their shared hatred for the Bad Orange Man. With Trump out of the picture it will be like removing an 800# gorilla from the room. If nothing else, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He was impeached twice. He was not convicted due to party politics the first time. This one will be more interesting.
    The evidence wasn’t strong enough to overcome the party politics lol.

    The founders *intended* to make removal from office difficult for a reason: because the temptation would be for the opposing party to use impeachment as means to effect an electoral change and that power belongs in the hands of the people.

    Basically, the first impeachment was a misguided effort that shouldn’t have occurred. Pelosi actually knew this, at one point.

    This one is no better. In an actual trial democrats will need more than rhetoric in order to establish their predicate [that Trump incited the protesters to riot]. They are going to need evidence. Failing that, they can hope for enough squishy republicans to give a ‘virtue signal vote’ to remove Trump from office. Except he will no longer be there.

    Like I said, this one is no better than the last; in fact, it’s arguably absurd. But these are democrats in the Trump era, so yeah.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Oh, it can get much worse.

    Go ahead and impeach him.
    Ok, he is impeached.
    Now what?
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The evidence wasn’t strong enough to overcome the party politics lol.

    The founders *intended* to make removal from office difficult for a reason: because the temptation would be for the opposing party to use impeachment as means to effect an electoral change and that power belongs in the hands of the people.

    Basically, the first impeachment was a misguided effort that shouldn’t have occurred. Pelosi actually knew this, at one point.

    This one is no better. In an actual trial democrats will need more than rhetoric in order to establish their predicate [that Trump incited the protesters to riot]. They are going to need evidence. Failing that, they can hope for enough squishy republicans to give a ‘virtue signal vote’ to remove Trump from office. Except he will no longer be there.

    Like I said, this one is no better than the last; in fact, it’s arguably absurd. But these are democrats in the Trump era, so yeah.
    We all saw him do it on video you freak of nature. How can you be this ignorant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Again Moron

    Half of those were votes against Biden you idiot.
    We all need to try & keep in mind that Boris aka anatta isn't attached or wedded to trump, honest, he said so.......

    He is now a progressive liberal...

    Can you tell???
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Liz Cheney votes for Impeachment and Mich calls Trump a provocateur
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    the old guard interventionists and stagnant swamp monsters are the death knell of the Republicans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    We all need to try & keep in mind that Boris aka anatta isn't attached or wedded to trump, honest, he said so.......

    He is now a progressive liberal...

    Can you tell???
    CLASSIC LIBERAL not "progressive" anything

    you need to pay attention instead of writing crap like calling me a progressive

    'm a 60's liberal. Free Speech and Equal Access -even affirmative action where needed, now it's Approved Speech and Equal Outcomes -see the difference?
    60' are classic liberals..Progressives are socialists/statists

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    any other noise need quieting in here ?? FFS "Progressive" my ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    CLASSIC LIBERAL not "progressive" anything

    you need to pay attention instead of writing crap like calling me a progressive


    60' are classic liberals..Progressives are socialists/statists
    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I am still a liberal Progressive cancel culture is illiberal ( intolerant restricting freedom of thought or behavior).
    Dems are fascists. such are the times.. wise up
    I think you are off your rocker........... & pun intended
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    any other noise need quieting in here ?? FFS "Progressive" my ass
    I think my last post did that, so you can take your meds & go to sleep now.........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I think you are off your rocker........... & pun intended
    rofl... what is that expression ? "For Want of a Nail"

    In this case its want of a period (.) After the word liberal. so it says "Im still a liberal". period.

    then the next word is the next sentence "Progressive cancel culture is illiberal " where i/cons make the case
    Progressive is the antithesis of classic liberalism


    meh. i appreciate being able to re-say it again;
    it's key to understanding Progressive Dems are NOT 'liberals'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I think my last post did that, so you can take your meds & go to sleep now.........
    killer green. I havent smoked in a couple weeks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01...25th-amendment
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    rofl... what is that expression ? "For Want of a Nail"

    In this case its want of a period (.) After the word liberal. so it says "Im still a liberal". period.

    then the next word is the next sentence "Progressive cancel culture is illiberal " where i/cons make the case
    Progressive is the antithesis of classic liberalism


    meh. i appreciate being able to re-say it again;
    it's key to understanding Progressive Dems are NOT 'liberals'
    Oh my word, how low can one apologist go, now it's the O' where the fuck is that dot".........

    & don't even try & use that O' "like I missed my period" w/ me, nothing happened so stop right there.

    You damn progressives' will stop @ nothing in your pursuit of untruth & alternative facts.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    killer green. I havent smoked in a couple weeks..
    & you missed your period,
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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