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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    disagree. no one other then Trump made economic nationalism
    ( as opposed to globalism, and capitulation to China) a policy point

    Repubs are globalist, Dems are that as well as unwilling to check China except thru the WTO
    ( a meaningless paper tiger)

    Nobody is going to confront China - the main target of economic nationalism
    Yep, it is kinda funny to see ppl trying to roll w/ trumpism w/out trump........

    If they wanna go w/ that, IMHO they are going to need to rebrand it & make it their own.. No one has even begun to do that that I have seen........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    Fight back with what? They cave to everything. No one wants that anymore. And this massive cover up of fraud and Nazi style enforcement by the FBI and massive purge and censorship where fraud can't be mentioned. No one wants the party that did it and it will never be forgotten.
    You should speak for yourself not everyone..

    The system is built on compromise-no one gets their way all the time, did you miss the last election??

    Unwillingness to do so leads to gridlock..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Hey Trump did have his accomplishments and as I've stated previously had he not mismanaged the COVID-19 (and that has become personal for me now as both the Misses and I have just been diagnosed with COVID....and yes we both feel like shit but are doing ok....only low level flu symptoms but it's been going on for almost two weeks now with no let up) he very likely would have been re-elected.

    I think Trump had some significant economic accomplishments prior to COVID, though a bit mixed, mainly the rise in manufacturing employment and a rise in hourly wages shows he worked to keep his word to his working class supporters. I also agreed with his tough stance on China though I did disagree with his trade policies as they ended up seriously hurting US exports, particularly in agriculture. Most importantly Trump did not enlarge US involvement over seas, and worked to decrease current involvements which reduced the risk of escalation and he did not involve us in a foreign war. That is probably his most significant accomplishment.

    But in the end Trump was his own worst enemy with his divisive demagoguery and scape goating and his bungling of the civil unrest last summer and most importantly his mismanagement of COVID-19 by undermining his own public health professionals did him in.

    But last weeks inciting his wingnut faction to riot during the count of the electoral college and his lies about voter fraud grew into an attack on some of our most important civial institutions and became an existential threat to our Republic...and that is what he will be remembered for.
    Hope you & the Misses continue to doing ok & recover well.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    You should speak for yourself not everyone..

    The system is built on compromise-no one gets their way all the time, did you miss the last election??

    Unwillingness to do so leads to gridlock..
    No one? Are you forgetting about the establishment and the Deep State. They had their way and always did until Trump. That is why we had four years of hysterics. They had to cheat him, censor him, block any mention of fraud on social media and networks. But they are desperate for power. Too bad half the country knows there was massive fraud. It will never be lied away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    No one? Are you forgetting about the establishment and the Deep State. They had their way and always did until Trump. That is why we had four years of hysterics. They had to cheat him, censor him, block any mention of fraud on social media and networks. But they are desperate for power. Too bad half the country knows there was massive fraud. It will never be lied away.
    trump was the establishment, one can not be any more establishment than the president of the usa, regardless of spin.....

    There is no deep state, trump made it up, but if you believe it then you should consider the fact they are here & soon your mango messiah will not be.. As great as he was, he got the boot & impeached, again.....

    Sad you believe all this crap, but I guess that is up to you..........

    Over half the country wanted trump out & impeached...

    Many in the gop did not vote against impeaching him......

    trump is gone along w/ your dreams & illusions.....

    My suggestion to you is simple, grow up or find another political messiah to cling to....

    best of luck in the new year........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    trump was the establishment, one can not be any more establishment than the president of the usa, regardless of spin.....

    There is no deep state, trump made it up, but if you believe it then you should consider the fact they are here & soon your mango messiah will not be.. As great as he was, he got the boot & impeached, again.....

    Sad you believe all this crap, but I guess that is up to you..........

    Over half the country wanted trump out & impeached...

    Many in the gop did not vote against impeaching him......

    trump is gone along w/ your dreams & illusions.....

    My suggestion to you is simple, grow up or find another political messiah to cling to....

    best of luck in the new year........
    He was sabotaged at every turn. He still kept promises. The first president in my lifetime to do that. Biden is not a legitimate president. Trump was and likely the last one because of the corrupt scum that sold our country out. And the stupid who believe they give one shit about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    He was sabotaged at every turn. He still kept promises. The first president in my lifetime to do that. Biden is not a legitimate president. Trump was and likely the last one because of the corrupt scum that sold our country out. And the stupid who believe they give one shit about them.
    Carlin tried to warn us now many years ago..."They dont care about YOU!".
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Hope you & the Misses continue to doing ok & recover well.......
    Thankss. Appreciate it. I'm pretty much back to normal but the Misses is still running a fever and feeling poorly. Keeping a close eye on her.
    You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
    He was sabotaged at every turn. He still kept promises. The first president in my lifetime to do that. Biden is not a legitimate president. Trump was and likely the last one because of the corrupt scum that sold our country out. And the stupid who believe they give one shit about them.
    I am about done wasting time w/ you.........

    You believe whatever floats your boat, it will keep you off the street hopefully.....

    I can list lots trump did not do from the southern boarder to the coal mines of W Virginie..............

    Hopefully trump is the last one......

    You can go to your grave regretting what he did to himself, the world goes on.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    he has a movement. 74 million votes gotta go somewhere, and it aint going to the elitists
    Again Moron

    Half of those were votes against Biden you idiot.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Democrats never listen to me but here goes lol.

    They shouldn’t do this regardless of what McConnell supposedly said. The Turtle may even be baiting them. Too many voters don’t want it and their anger will carry over to the midterms.

    It’s going to be a bad political move and arguably worse than the first misguided impeachment that was ‘such a glaring success‘ democrats barley mentioned it during the campaign. It has all the appearances of some medieval characters exhuming a dead king and scattering his bones. Besides, it makes no sense: the whole point to impeachment is to try and score the removal and he’s gone in little over a week.

    But when it comes to Trump, Democrats can’t help themselves. And when it comes to Nancy Pelosi she *really can’t help herself*. One of the damnedest things I’ve ever seen.
    He was impeached twice. He was not convicted due to party politics the first time. This one will be more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01...25th-amendment
    When even Republicans support impeachment... This does not look good for trump.

    trump really should not have targeted Republicans for murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    he has a movement. 74 million votes gotta go somewhere, and it aint going to the elitists
    trump has lost 9% of that 74 million already, so that is 67 million. Lets say he sticks at that, he continues to be able to get 40% of the vote, but no more...

    That would be the worst disaster possible for the Republicans. It is too much support to change their strategy, and too little to win general elections. They would become the "also ran" party. And that is McConnell's fear.

    If he can get rid of trump, he hopes the trump voters will have nowhere else to go, and stay in the Republican Party. he then hopes he can add to that more votes and get up to 50% or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump has lost 9% of that 74 million already, so that is 67 million. Lets say he sticks at that, he continues to be able to get 40% of the vote, but no more...

    That would be the worst disaster possible for the Republicans. It is too much support to change their strategy, and too little to win general elections. They would become the "also ran" party. And that is McConnell's fear.

    If he can get rid of trump, he hopes the trump voters will have nowhere else to go, and stay in the Republican Party. he then hopes he can add to that more votes and get up to 50% or more.
    you dont understand populism. while of course many sheeple like yourself simply vote (D) or (R)
    there are a large amount of Trump voters who are independent

    I change partys all the time. I've supported Hillary ( before Libya), Obama ( before his manifest racialism)
    and have voted 3rd party for Gary Johnson for POTUS

    Modern Dems are an anathema because of their statism, and the power of the elites behind them
    So I can just not vote, or vote 3rd party as much as Republican in 2024

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