No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

[volsrock]

No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

Inflaming emotions isn’t a crime. The president didn’t mention violence, much less provoke it.


House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of “incitement to insurrection.” Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is “looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role” in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.

The president didn’t commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname “protester prosecutor” from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trum...J1MlpvqYIfljEg

The president didn’t mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

[volsrock]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

[katzgar]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

My only comment is you are backing a loser

[domer76]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

OK. Until your post, Bull&Terrier had the stupidest fucking post of the day. Congrats. You just kicked his ass and zoomed far beyond anything he posted.

Trying to compare Trump with those Founding Fathers is a winner.

Ding, ding!

[Poor Richard Saunders]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

You really are that stupid, aren't you.

First of all, since they were revolting against a King it couldn't be "undemocratic."
Secondly, their actions were lawless and treasonous under English law.
They did incite rebellion and if they had not been successful they would have been hung for their actions.

In this case, Trump's attempt to overthrow the US government was not successful. Should he be subject to the same penalty John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry were subject to if they had failed? Perhaps you are familiar with Nathan Hale. I doubt Trump would be so willing to give his life for his cause.

[martin]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

And as anyone who has read history knows they were all deemed lawless by the government in power and understood their peril if their rebellion failed and they faced trial. Any other apt comparisons you would like to suggest?

[Jerome]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

[Hoosier Daddy]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

Anyone got anything to say about that?

Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

yeah, you are right about the founding fathers rebelling against a king ruling them from 3400 miles away without any representation. and you compare that to trump inciting invading the capitol to try and force or intimidate pence and legislators to overturn a fair election? what a stupid fuck comparison......go to your room.

[Walt]

John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

If they had done as pathetic of a job of the American Revolution as trump did in his maga revolution, they would have all been executed.

[floridafan]

No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

Inflaming emotions isn’t a crime. The president didn’t mention violence, much less provoke it.


House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of “incitement to insurrection.” Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is “looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role” in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.

The president didn’t commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname “protester prosecutor” from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trum...J1MlpvqYIfljEg

The president didn’t mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

Naturally you neglected to mention the many attempts this president has made to inflame his supporters by pretending the election was illegal and in reality he had won by thousands of votes. A message that was repeated over and over to those who would believe anything he tells them.

[volsrock]

Naturally you neglected to mention the many attempts this president has made to inflame his supporters by pretending the election was illegal and in reality he had won by thousands of votes. A message that was repeated over and over to those who would believe anything he tells them.

President Trump said PEACEFULLY !!!

[floridafan]

President Trump said PEACEFULLY !!!

Once again I mention every single attempt he has made to make his followers believe that the election was illegal, that he had won handily and that it was stolen away from him.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Once again I mention every single attempt he has made to make his followers believe that the election was illegal, that he had won handily and that it was stolen away from him.

it was a mostly fraudulent election. you're probably gonna have to kill us all.

[Jerome]

it was a mostly fraudulent election. you're probably gonna have to kill us all.

Right, Rudy "My Hair is Melting" Giuliani says so, so it must be true.

[floridafan]

it was a mostly fraudulent election. you're probably gonna have to kill us all.

You fucking well know that it was the most honest election in American history. You have yet to present a single, just one, piece of evidence to any court of wrong doing. You own attorney general confirmed that they was no evidence of any fraud. Even Trump appointed judges sided against him.