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    No, Trump Isnít Guilty of Incitement

    Inflaming emotions isnít a crime. The president didnít mention violence, much less provoke it.


    House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of ďincitement to insurrection.Ē Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is ďlooking at all actors here and anyone that had a roleĒ in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.

    The president didnít commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname ďprotester prosecutorĒ from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trum...J1MlpvqYIfljEg

    The president didnít mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, ďI know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.Ē

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    John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Patrick Henry all incited rebellion against their lawful king.

    Anyone got anything to say about that?

    Any hypocrites wanna howl about their SHAMEFUL UNDEMOCRATIC LAWLESS TREASONOUS behavior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

    Inflaming emotions isn’t a crime. The president didn’t mention violence, much less provoke it.


    House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of “incitement to insurrection.” Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is “looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role” in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.

    The president didn’t commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname “protester prosecutor” from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trum...J1MlpvqYIfljEg

    The president didn’t mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
    Naturally you neglected to mention the many attempts this president has made to inflame his supporters by pretending the election was illegal and in reality he had won by thousands of votes. A message that was repeated over and over to those who would believe anything he tells them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Naturally you neglected to mention the many attempts this president has made to inflame his supporters by pretending the election was illegal and in reality he had won by thousands of votes. A message that was repeated over and over to those who would believe anything he tells them.
    President Trump said PEACEFULLY !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    President Trump said PEACEFULLY !!!
    Once again I mention every single attempt he has made to make his followers believe that the election was illegal, that he had won handily and that it was stolen away from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    President Trump said PEACEFULLY !!!
    Oh, so NOW you want to take him at his word, but for the past 4 years when we've done that, it's all "he really meant THIS".

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    He mentioned peace and peaceful protests!

    just like some Dims mentioned peace and peaceful protests regarding BLM!!!!


    Harris on BLM protests

    “They’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop,” she told him. “This is a movement, I’m telling you. They’re not gonna stop. And everyone beware because they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop before Election Day and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. And everyone should take note of that. They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”



    The protests Harris spoke of were responsible for an estimated $1 – $2 billion in property damage between May 26 and June 8, 2020, and dozens of deaths, including that of retired St. Louis police officer David Dorn.


    BEWARE? Why should anyone BEWARE of a peaceful protest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Naturally you neglected to mention the many attempts this president has made to inflame his supporters by pretending the election was illegal and in reality he had won by thousands of votes. A message that was repeated over and over to those who would believe anything he tells them.
    Thatís not going to fly.

    In order to incite an insurrection you have to *intend* for one to occur and it needs to be explicitly stated.

    But go ahead and over reach, again. Between this and the literal *purging* of conservative voices on major platforms itís becoming clear that the left is going to use this opportunity [more of a gift, from from some very stupid individuals] to go full China.

    They will quickly blow through whatever political capital that was gained by last Wednesday.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    That’s not going to fly.

    In order to incite an insurrection you have to *intend* for one to occur and it needs to be explicitly stated.

    But go ahead and over reach, again. Between this and the literal *purging* of conservative voices on major platforms it’s becoming clear that the left is going to use this opportunity [more of a gift, from from some very stupid individuals] to go full China.

    They will quickly blow through whatever political capital that was gained by last Wednesday.
    Personally my dear, I couldn't give a fuck what you think or spew. You have spent 4 years defending every dumb, idiotic, dangerous, or stupid thing this President has done. There is nothing he could ever say or do that would in the least bother you.
    In you favor, I know you would never join the hordes in DC, because you are a little cowardly cunt.

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    No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement
    Incitement was evident from what the world witnessed on TV. Now Trump's files and computers should be seized.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

    Inflaming emotions isn’t a crime. The president didn’t mention violence, much less provoke it.


    House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of “incitement to insurrection.” Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is “looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role” in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.

    The president didn’t commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname “protester prosecutor” from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-trum...J1MlpvqYIfljEg

    The president didn’t mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
    Of course you realize that this is an opinion piece, an opinion piece authored by a lawyer who referred to Obama as “Kenyan Muslim President,”
    (https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro), and his opinion is easily matched with others arguing the opposite view

    Just because Trump didn’t verbally say “go bust into the Capital” doesn’t mean he didn’t incite the riot

    A more objective view would be that at this point it is undecided (https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...f25bd18db5b268), arguments on both sides, which is why they would have a trial in the Senate

    Regardless, his actions were definitely beneath that of a sitting President

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    If asked, "Who incited the crowd on Wednesday?", I can't imagine any American that wouldn't honestly answer, "Trump."

    If he didn't incite what happened, then incitement doesn't exist as a concept.

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    As Protest Violence Mounts, Rep. Ayanna Pressley Recklessly Calls for More 'Unrest in the Streets'

    Massachusetts Democrat Rep. Ayanna Pressley, appearing on MSNBC Saturday to discuss taking to the streets to protest the Trump administration’s COVID-19 policies, decided it was high time to go with “unrest.”

    https://www.westernjournal.com/prote...nrest-streets/



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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    As Protest Violence Mounts, Rep. Ayanna Pressley Recklessly Calls for More 'Unrest in the Streets'

    Massachusetts Democrat Rep. Ayanna Pressley, appearing on MSNBC Saturday to discuss taking to the streets to protest the Trump administration’s COVID-19 policies, decided it was high time to go with “unrest.”

    https://www.westernjournal.com/prote...nrest-streets/


    Ok, so the Trump-supporting crowd at the Capitol is just as bad as BLM and Antifa.

    Got it. Thanks.
    See the Right Wing Super Patriot:

    Hear him preach how he loves his country. Hear him preach how he hates Liberals...and Moderates...and Intellectuals...and Activists...and Pacifisits...and Minority Groups...and Aliens...and Teenagers...and the Very Rich...and the Very Poor...and People with Foreign-sounding names.
    Now you know what a Right Wing Super Patriot is:
    Someone who loves his country while hating 90% of the Americans who live in it.

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