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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    I said what I said... Biden will be Prime Minister of the SOA... Do you know what a Prime Minister is?
    You said he would preside over a govt of Oligarchs which implies that he is either one of them or in their pockets.

    Explain the so-called "logic" behind that bullshit commentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It should have strengthened your faith in our system. We followed the Constitution. What you were hoping would happen would have violated the wording of the Constitution and state laws establishing the procedure for choosing electors.
    No, it strengthened my confidence level in your dishonesty. It is obvious who on this site hates the US.

    I had insisted that Biden would not get 306 electoral votes on January 6th. I was certain State legislatures would have acted differently. I was greatly mistaken. I wanted to give all the Leftist US-haters on this site the opportunity to say "I told you." I owe all of them my sincere acknowledgment that I was wrong.

    I am doing that now. I also wish to afford all of those who wish to vent the opportunity to unload and to pile on.

    You are welcome to "have at it."

    Once again, I acknowledge that I was wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    You said he would preside over a govt of Oligarchs which implies that he is either one of them or in their pockets.
    Yes, gfm7175 is correct. Do you understand what an oligarchy is? You seem confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Yes, gfm7175 is correct. Do you understand what an oligarchy is? You seem confused.
    What has Joseph Biden ever done to make someone claim that he would be part of something like that.

    That is what I am "confused" about because he has never given any indication that he would ever be associated with such a thing.

    I'm just waiting for one of you confused morons to explain the supposed "reasoning" behind the claim that was made by gfm7175.

    So far neither he/she or you have been able to do so.

    I'm just going to have to assume that it was just more meaningless rwnj bullshit that was based on nothing as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    No, it strengthened my confidence level in your dishonesty. It is obvious who on this site hates the US.

    I had insisted that Biden would not get 306 electoral votes on January 6th. I was certain State legislatures would have acted differently. I was greatly mistaken. I wanted to give all the Leftist US-haters on this site the opportunity to say "I told you." I owe all of them my sincere acknowledgment that I was wrong.

    I am doing that now. I also wish to afford all of those who wish to vent the opportunity to unload and to pile on.

    You are welcome to "have at it."

    Once again, I acknowledge that I was wrong.
    It is strange to acknowledge you were wrong and say it strengthened your faith in my dishonesty. I argued the states could not change their electoral votes after the Dec 14 date because that is when the Constitution says states shall cast their electoral votes. That is simple fact, not dishonesty.

    That is simply because I read the Constitution and about the procedures for the electoral college. And, it would violate all our legal principles for a state to establish the popular vote would select the electors and then, after the fact, change its mind and choose different electors. As was pointed out at the time, many of those state legislatures were not even in session to choose new electors.

    I think your strong desire to see Trump win led to some irrational beliefs about how the system works. Because you were wrong does not mean those who disagreed with you "hate the U. S." Don't let your politics result in hate for others. It was simply a disagreement about things work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    I was wrong.

    I was sure the State legislatures would do the right thing but they were apparently in on the plan as well. I was naive. I totally did NOT see it coming.

    I no longer have any faith in the US government. I no longer consider my vote to count. The US is now an oligarchy that rules by fiat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    I was wrong.

    I was sure the State legislatures would do the right thing but they were apparently in on the plan as well. I was naive. I totally did NOT see it coming.

    I no longer have any faith in the US government. I no longer consider my vote to count. The US is now an oligarchy that rules by fiat.


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    The state legislatures did the right thing. They responded to every crazed right-wing claim. Trump was given every recount he qualified for and more. He was in court 60 times and all he had to do was show fraud. He could not because he had none. They kept going to court to pretend the court system was unfair to Trump. They were part of the anti-Trump plot. Some of those judges were far rightys appointed by Trump. All they required was a case. Trump had none.
    You are naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    You said he would preside over a govt of Oligarchs which implies that he is either one of them or in their pockets.

    Explain the so-called "logic" behind that bullshit commentary.
    I already explained it quite clearly... I believe I even used the word "figurehead" to describe PM Biden...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    I was wrong.

    I was sure the State legislatures would do the right thing but they were apparently in on the plan as well. I was naive. I totally did NOT see it coming.

    I no longer have any faith in the US government. I no longer consider my vote to count. The US is now an oligarchy that rules by fiat.


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    I, too, was wrong.

    I, too, thought that at least some of the State legislatures would do the right thing, especially after all of the affidavits and evidence and what not. While I didn't have much faith in my own State legislature here in WI, I had no idea just how corrupt and "RINO" GA's politicians in particular are...

    I knew there would be fraud, but I figured that a massive wave of Trump voters would overcome it. Boy was I wrong... I was naive about the extent and capabilities of those committing election fraud.

    I, too, no longer have any faith in the US government... I, too, no longer consider my vote to count [as a full vote, anyway] (and even if I did, I would no longer cast such a vote for any RINO traitors).

    I will, now on, be referring to our country as the SOA (Socialist Oligarchy of America)
    I love it when socks talk to themselves.

    Bring INT into this too.

    No, dude, the US isn't an oligarchy. If you ever visited a few shithole countries in the world then you'd see the United States is the best one. Sure, we have problems, but we're also a nation of 328M.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    What has Joseph Biden ever done to make someone claim that he would be part of something like that.
    Joe Biden is simply a figurehead. He doesn't even know the position that he is assuming, he thinks his wife is his sister, he makes up words and babbles incoherently (maybe he's speaking Liberal? I just know that it isn't English)... He has never been a leader; he has always been a follower. That is part of why I call him 'Prime Minister'. I also call him PM because he was effectively installed/appointed rather than freely and fairly elected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    That is what I am "confused" about because he has never given any indication that he would ever be associated with such a thing.
    He doesn't need to honestly admit to what he is in order to be what he honestly is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I'm just waiting for one of you confused morons to explain the supposed "reasoning" behind the claim that was made by gfm7175.
    I've explained it in prior posts (and again in this one). I think I have made myself clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    So far neither he/she or you have been able to do so.
    Already done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I'm just going to have to assume that it was just more meaningless rwnj bullshit that was based on nothing as usual.
    It holds meaning, of which I have explained numerous times now. I have made myself clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Joe Biden is simply a figurehead. He doesn't even know the position that he is assuming, he thinks his wife is his sister, he makes up words and babbles incoherently (maybe he's speaking Liberal? I just know that it isn't English)... He has never been a leader; he has always been a follower. That is part of why I call him 'Prime Minister'. I also call him PM because he was effectively installed/appointed rather than freely and fairly elected.


    He doesn't need to honestly admit to what he is in order to be what he honestly is.


    I've explained it in prior posts (and again in this one). I think I have made myself clear.


    Already done.


    It holds meaning, of which I have explained numerous times now. I have made myself clear.
    Even a figurehead would know the nature of the people who were propping him up.

    The only way you've made yourself clear is that you are clearly full of shit.

    So... to sum up what you said, originally and in the above quoted post.... you're just babbling a load of incoherent nonsense for the purpose of venting your anger and butthurt frustration because the REAL oligarch, the one who you voted for and who you wanted to get reelected, got the floor wiped up with his ass, so all you can do to help quell your impotent rage, is fling gobs of stupid shit about Biden, who everyone knows, is hands down and to the nth degree, more qualified to hold the position of POTUS than Trump, his entire family and all his lackeys, toadies and lickspittles put together x 1,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    I, too, was wrong.

    I, too, thought that at least some of the State legislatures would do the right thing, especially after all of the affidavits and evidence and what not. While I didn't have much faith in my own State legislature here in WI, I had no idea just how corrupt and "RINO" GA's politicians in particular are...

    I knew there would be fraud, but I figured that a massive wave of Trump voters would overcome it. Boy was I wrong... I was naive about the extent and capabilities of those committing election fraud.

    I, too, no longer have any faith in the US government... I, too, no longer consider my vote to count [as a full vote, anyway] (and even if I did, I would no longer cast such a vote for any RINO traitors).

    I will, now on, be referring to our country as the SOA (Socialist Oligarchy of America)
    No, you were right. All of the state legislatures did the right thing--they certified the election results of their state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I love it when socks talk to themselves.

    Bring INT into this too.

    No, dude, the US isn't an oligarchy. If you ever visited a few shithole countries in the world then you'd see the United States is the best one. Sure, we have problems, but we're also a nation of 328M.
    POLITICS CONTRIBUTORS
    Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

    Zachary Davies Boren , The Telegraph Apr 16, 2014, 8:16 AM
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    The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded.


    The report, "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" (PDF), used extensive policy data collected between 1981 and 2002 to empirically determine the state of the U.S. political system.

    After sifting through nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile), and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the U.S. is dominated by its economic elite.

    The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

    Researchers concluded that U.S. government policies rarely align with the preferences of the majority of Americans, but do favour special interests and lobbying organizations: "When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favour policy change, they generally do not get it."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/majo...igarchy-2014-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Your misogyny is noted, as is your partisan (and likely wrong) prediction.
    When I wish for your opinion then I'll ask for it, but don't hold your breath. She is a truly odious human being and thoroughly ruthless. In fact no different to the many actresses who used the casting couch to climb the greasy pole and then moaned about it. Of course they couldn't face the fact that they were essentially talentless and only got cast because of their looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    POLITICS CONTRIBUTORS
    Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

    Zachary Davies Boren , The Telegraph Apr 16, 2014, 8:16 AM
    ronald reagan gerald ford george hw bush
    AP
    The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded.


    The report, "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" (PDF), used extensive policy data collected between 1981 and 2002 to empirically determine the state of the U.S. political system.

    After sifting through nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile), and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the U.S. is dominated by its economic elite.

    The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

    Researchers concluded that U.S. government policies rarely align with the preferences of the majority of Americans, but do favour special interests and lobbying organizations: "When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favour policy change, they generally do not get it."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/majo...igarchy-2014-4
    So, since it was in the beginning, so it is to this day....

    It has never changed, nor will it ever.. Should it start changing, they will start leaving, just another perk of wealth.

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