Ted Cruz proposed a solution and Congress did nothing

**MAGA MAN** · 01-07-2021, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Flash

Polls showed Biden would get 51.2% of the vote and he got 51.4%. Since we are using polls that means the 39% are wrong and Biden won a majority of popular and electoral votes.

The polls were wrong in 2016, so there's that. Then you're attempting to equate votes cast with the sense of legitimacy of the voting process, so your argument completely falls flat.

**Poor Richard Saunders** · 01-07-2021, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

39% of Americans disagree. If The Swamp weren't so afraid of exposing the truth, they would have voted for this type of hearing.

10% of Americans think the earth is flat. That doesn't mean it's flat nor does it mean they will change their mind if Congress calls for a commission to find out if the earth if flat.

Just because people believe something doesn't make it true nor does it make them smart. There was no fraud. Even if 39% of Americans are idiots, that doesn't mean that there is fraud or a commission will find fraud nor that those 39% will believe the results that are already known which they deny in spite of the current evidence.

**MAGA MAN** · 01-07-2021, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jarod

I agree, but Trump's army still prevented the Congress from doing their Constitutional duty, which requires January 6th. Trumps rioters tried to permanently prevent it from happening, but luckily they failed and only delayed it a few hours.

You should have stopped at "agree", instead of dumping gasoline on your smoldering argument. Now it's on fire again, as in pants on fire.

**John Barron** · 01-07-2021, 01:28 PM

This is all that matters right now.

**MAGA MAN** · 01-07-2021, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders

10% of Americans think the earth is flat. That doesn't mean it's flat nor does it mean they will change their mind if Congress calls for a commission to find out if the earth if flat.

Just because people believe something doesn't make it true nor does it make them smart. There was no fraud. Even if 39% of Americans are idiots, that doesn't mean that there is fraud or a commission will find fraud nor that those 39% will believe the results that are already known which they deny in spite of the current evidence.

Actually it's only 2% but I'll accept the premise of your argument.

A hearing of flat earthers v. sherical would allow both sides to present their arguments. That's what Cruz was asking for.

**Jarod** · 01-07-2021, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

You should have stopped at "agree", instead of dumping gasoline on your smoldering argument. Now it's on fire again, as in pants on fire.

I disagree, the truth is important.

Your hero is about to be impeached again.

**Wolverine** · 01-07-2021, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

Good luck messing with Texas. I'll guarantee that I'm better educated than you.

He is certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed!

**MAGA MAN** · 01-07-2021, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by John Barron

[SIZE=4][B]This is all that matters right now.

I suggest that you read Federalist 51.

**MAGA MAN** · 01-07-2021, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jarod

I disagree, the truth is important.

If you actually thought that you would want both arguments to be heard.

**Mr.Badguy** · 01-07-2021, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

Actually it's only 2% but I'll accept the premise of your argument.

A hearing of flat earthers v. sherical would allow both sides to present their arguments. That's what Cruz was asking for.

We've been hearing the other side's arguments since Nov 3rd. They carry just as much water as flat Earth theory does.

Why would ANYONE debate vs flat Earth in this day and age? Why coddle MORONS?

**MAGA MAN** · 01-07-2021, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy

We've been hearing the other side's arguments since the 3rd.

No you haven't. All libs here have been in lock-step denial that there was any evidence.

**Jarod** · 01-07-2021, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

If you actually thought that you would want both arguments to be heard.

They were, in court and in the State Houses, those are the proper and Constitutional places for them to be head.

**Jarod** · 01-07-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

I suggest that you read Federalist 51.

Not a part of the Constitution. But what portion makes your argument? I have studied it several times.

Here is a link to it so you can find the portions you are referencing....

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed51.asp

**Flash** · 01-07-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

The polls were wrong in 2016, so there's that. Then you're attempting to equate votes cast with the sense of legitimacy of the voting process, so your argument completely falls flat.

2016 RCP average: Clinton 46.8% Trump 43.6%
2016 RCP Result: Clinton 48.2% Trump 46.1%

I was comparing the accuracy of the election poll with the actual vote total showing fraud was unlikely. Those doubting the legitimacy of the election are motivated more by partisan belief than reality.

**Charoite** · 01-07-2021, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders

What truth? The commission would find there was no fraud. Would you accept that result? Would most of Trump followers accept it? Would Fox News commentators accept it? There is no result from the commission that would result in anyone changing their minds on this because when they find and report the truth that there was no fraud, the idiots would accuse them of hiding the truth.

The simple and easy truth is that there was no fraud capable of causing Trump to lose. Trump lost because 81 million plus voters voted for other candidates.

Your statements show you don't give a damn about the actual truth. You have convinced yourself that outlandish fantasies are true and I doubt even medication would bring you back to reality.

Medication doesn't help happily complacent ignorance and stupidity. It will also only help with ego if it's caused by mental dysfunction like mental illness or chemical imbalance.