Micawber (01-04-2021), ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
Leading up to the election Trump said repeatedly that he would only lose if the election were stolen. On its face this is an unintelligent statement. Biden stood not only a chance at winning but a good chance at winning. The polling averages in fact gave him a better chance than Trump. This was true specifically of Georgia, a state where the election would be administered by members of his own party. On election eve, the polling on average gave Biden a small lead in Georgia, and, sure enough, Biden won the state by a small margin. Yet Trump claimed in the phone call yesterday that he won the state by 50,000 votes while providing no factual basis whatsoever for the margin. This again is unintelligent. It's really quite stupid. Or it's insincere, and Trump is lying. Your pick. It has to be one or the other.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...neral/georgia/
Micawber (01-04-2021), ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
Trump thinks he won the state by hundreds of thousands just by the size of his rallies.
CharacterAssassin (01-04-2021), no worries (01-04-2021), ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
In my opinion he is certainly lying, in the belief his sheep like, genuinely unintelligent following will believe whatever he tells them and that GOP officials who know better will follow along. But there's also an argument to be made against the man's working intelligence and the extent to which he's a victim of his own fantasies.
Don't forget the 3rd option- HE IS BOTH LYING AND STUPID!
Micawber (01-04-2021), no worries (01-04-2021), ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
That’s just Trump, it is all part of his schtick
The more he perpetuates the lies the more the Trumpkins will believe him and the longer he stays a player in the GOP, its orchestrated, he don’t want to leave, but he knows being recognized as a loser in MAGAland is even a worse scenario for him
Trump honestly believes he won. Trump has serious mental problems. He lives in an alternate reality. We are lucky that we got rid of him. He is capable of such insanity. He will try to get the military to help him stay in office. I hope he gets no takers.
Last edited by Nordberg; 01-04-2021 at 02:03 PM.
ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
That transcript was chock full o' goodies - but I caught that line about the rallies.
He really believes that. There is no way Biden could have won, because Trump was drawing thousands to his rallies, and Biden only had "about 100." I've seen a lot of Trump supporters parrot that, also.
I almost hate to just call it "stupid," since that really minimalizes the faulty logic behind that thinking. This is a world leader we're talking about.
John Barron (01-04-2021)
John Barron (01-04-2021), no worries (01-04-2021), ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
Close! A pathological liar believes the lies that he tells which are believed by others sufficiently to accomplish the purpose of the lie. The believability is the test of truth.
A narcissistic delusional sociopath, on the other hand, believes anything he wants and insists it is right if it makes his little damaged Freudian id feel good. And that is what Trump is.
ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
ThatOwlWoman (01-04-2021)
` Trump is so stupid.
How stupid is he?
He does not know the election is over.
Micawber (01-04-2021)
Right. Whichever, the point is his claim is meritless on its face and those that pretend to take it seriously only join in the lying and stupidity. Members of Congress will be joining in the lying and stupidity on Wednesday when they attempt to foist the lies on the American people.
Geeko Sportivo (01-05-2021)
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