We dropped two A-bombs on Japan instead of invading the home islands. Was this just war or racism?
We dropped two A-bombs on Japan instead of invading the home islands. Was this just war or racism?
Doc Dutch (12-07-2020)
War. I'm sorry that we did it and killed so many civilians, but the loss of life from an invasion would have been even worse. I think it is a tribute to humanity, and to organizations like NATO, the UN, etc. that we haven't used a nuclear weapon in 75 years despite the proliferation of the devices.
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The proliferation may be the reason nuclear weapons have not been used since Hiroshima. When only one nation has them there is no deterrence to use it since nobody can retaliate. When other countries have them a nuclear attack can result in a counter attack.
That is why deterrence theory says a country must have enough weapons to survive a nuclear attack in order to launch a counter attack and inflict unacceptable losses.
ThatOwlWoman (12-07-2020)
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ThatOwlWoman (12-07-2020)
Sure, America didn't sit well with the uncalled for chicken-shit attack of PEARL HARBOR, or the sinking of the Arizona and loss of American life. Sure we had to counter-attack and retaliate. But it was for many other reasons, not just for retaliation. Japan's death march through China that killed over a million innocent Chinese civilians, and Japan's attacks of many islands in the Pacific killing 100's of thousands of innocent people WEIGHED heavy on Truman's decision to agree with using the nuclear option for the very first and last time.
Not only was it an important military strategic decision, it was a humanitarian decision as well.
ThatOwlWoman (12-09-2020)
Don't you have anything better to do than ask to be humiliated -- again?
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CharacterAssassin (12-08-2020)
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
I wasn't quite in my mom's tummy when those two bombs were dropped.
Just missed it by a tiny bit.
And my not having gone through what the world was going through then, Truman's decision is not one upon which I can easily make judgement.
We're the only nation in the world to have used nuclear weapons in war and everybody knows it.
We were fighting Europeans and Asians, and we dropped the bombs on the Asians.
Everybody knows that as well.
Whether it was racist or not is something that may be argued forever.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
We did horrendous damage and horrific casualty counts in Germany as well. Over 25,000 killed in the Dresden fire bombings, and almost that many in Hamburg. I think the decision to use the devices on Japan was not based on racism as much as it was practicality. Japan was the hold-out; Germany had been crushed months before, and Italy wasn't much of a player either.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (12-07-2020)
Germany, Italy and Japan could have avoided all that costly damage and horrific casualties; just don't start a global conflict and engage in criminal murder.
My German uncle once opined about Dresden calling it a war crime; I told him starting a global war and murdering millions of Jews is the actual war crime. He was such a fucking Nazi. I can't say his death bothered me the least.
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A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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