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    Default Was dropping the Bomb on Japan racist?

    We dropped two A-bombs on Japan instead of invading the home islands. Was this just war or racism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    We dropped two A-bombs on Japan instead of invading the home islands. Was this just war or racism?
    War. I'm sorry that we did it and killed so many civilians, but the loss of life from an invasion would have been even worse. I think it is a tribute to humanity, and to organizations like NATO, the UN, etc. that we haven't used a nuclear weapon in 75 years despite the proliferation of the devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    War. I'm sorry that we did it and killed so many civilians, but the loss of life from an invasion would have been even worse. I think it is a tribute to humanity, and to organizations like NATO, the UN, etc. that we haven't used a nuclear weapon in 75 years despite the proliferation of the devices.
    Why be sorry about something that you admit caused less loss of life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    War. I'm sorry that we did it and killed so many civilians, but the loss of life from an invasion would have been even worse. I think it is a tribute to humanity, and to organizations like NATO, the UN, etc. that we haven't used a nuclear weapon in 75 years despite the proliferation of the devices.
    The proliferation may be the reason nuclear weapons have not been used since Hiroshima. When only one nation has them there is no deterrence to use it since nobody can retaliate. When other countries have them a nuclear attack can result in a counter attack.

    That is why deterrence theory says a country must have enough weapons to survive a nuclear attack in order to launch a counter attack and inflict unacceptable losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The proliferation may be the reason nuclear weapons have not been used since Hiroshima. When only one nation has them there is no deterrence to use it since nobody can retaliate. When other countries have them a nuclear attack can result in a counter attack.

    That is why deterrence theory says a country must have enough weapons to survive a nuclear attack in order to launch a counter attack and inflict unacceptable losses.
    Or as they used to call it back in our day -- MAD: Mutually Assured Destruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Or as they used to call it back in our day -- MAD: Mutually Assured Destruction.
    Why does that remind me of this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    War. I'm sorry that we did it and killed so many civilians, but the loss of life from an invasion would have been even worse. I think it is a tribute to humanity, and to organizations like NATO, the UN, etc. that we haven't used a nuclear weapon in 75 years despite the proliferation of the devices.
    Sure, America didn't sit well with the uncalled for chicken-shit attack of PEARL HARBOR, or the sinking of the Arizona and loss of American life. Sure we had to counter-attack and retaliate. But it was for many other reasons, not just for retaliation. Japan's death march through China that killed over a million innocent Chinese civilians, and Japan's attacks of many islands in the Pacific killing 100's of thousands of innocent people WEIGHED heavy on Truman's decision to agree with using the nuclear option for the very first and last time.

    Not only was it an important military strategic decision, it was a humanitarian decision as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    We dropped two A-bombs on Japan instead of invading the home islands. Was this just war or racism?
    Talk to a few WWII vets and yes, it was racist, at least racist against the "race" who would kill us. It was also war, our military was attacked. So it was both, IMHO.
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    I wasn't quite in my mom's tummy when those two bombs were dropped.
    Just missed it by a tiny bit.
    And my not having gone through what the world was going through then, Truman's decision is not one upon which I can easily make judgement.

    We're the only nation in the world to have used nuclear weapons in war and everybody knows it.
    We were fighting Europeans and Asians, and we dropped the bombs on the Asians.
    Everybody knows that as well.

    Whether it was racist or not is something that may be argued forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I wasn't quite in my mom's tummy when those two bombs were dropped.
    Just missed it by a tiny bit.
    And my not having gone through what the world was going through then, Truman's decision is not one upon which I can easily make judgement.

    We're the only nation in the world to have used nuclear weapons in war and everybody knows it.
    We were fighting Europeans and Asians, and we dropped the bombs on the Asians.
    Everybody knows that as well.

    Whether it was racist or not is something that may be argued forever.
    We did horrendous damage and horrific casualty counts in Germany as well. Over 25,000 killed in the Dresden fire bombings, and almost that many in Hamburg. I think the decision to use the devices on Japan was not based on racism as much as it was practicality. Japan was the hold-out; Germany had been crushed months before, and Italy wasn't much of a player either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    We did horrendous damage and horrific casualty counts in Germany as well. Over 25,000 killed in the Dresden fire bombings, and almost that many in Hamburg. I think the decision to use the devices on Japan was not based on racism as much as it was practicality. Japan was the hold-out; Germany had been crushed months before, and Italy wasn't much of a player either.
    Germany, Italy and Japan could have avoided all that costly damage and horrific casualties; just don't start a global conflict and engage in criminal murder.

    My German uncle once opined about Dresden calling it a war crime; I told him starting a global war and murdering millions of Jews is the actual war crime. He was such a fucking Nazi. I can't say his death bothered me the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It debatable whether the war would have drug on, I guess that is the debate that will continue on this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Germany, Italy and Japan could have avoided all that costly damage and horrific casualties; just don't start a global conflict and engage in criminal murder.

    My German uncle once opined about Dresden calling it a war crime; I told him starting a global war and murdering millions of Jews is the actual war crime. He was such a fucking Nazi. I can't say his death bothered me the least.
    Lol, Italy killed less civilians in WW2 than the USA / UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    Lol, Italy killed less civilians in WW2 than the USA / UK.
    Why don't you impress everyone with your math skills and add the total civilian deaths by the US and UK. Please link your source.
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