Irish (12-03-2020)
It would require a constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college, but if democrats can pull it off or inact some measure or proposal to lesson it’s useless impediment to real democracy, republicans would never win the White House.
Ignore republican whining because they believe that winning by getting the most votes is cheating.
Without the EC this election would have been indisputably over long ago. Donald Trump himself is the poster child for abolishing the EC. Lots of proposals on how to get it done.
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
Irish (12-03-2020)
Cypress (12-03-2020), evince (12-04-2020), Guno צְבִי (12-03-2020), ThatOwlWoman (12-03-2020)
None of the excuses offered in defense of the EC even make sense.
There are conservatives here who have spent message board careers claiming the intent of the EC is to ensure a mandate of a majority of states.
That is not the intent of the EC, and the constitution does not say a single word about a president needing a mandate of a majority of states.
Presidents can and have won the EC and popular vote while only carrying a minority of states.
Mathematically, it is possible to win the EC by only carrying the eleven most populous states.
The real problem with the EC, what really makes it undemocratic, is that the EC votes are distributed by the states on a winner-take-all basis.
blackascoal (12-04-2020), CharacterAssassin (12-03-2020), evince (12-04-2020), Guno צְבִי (12-03-2020), Iolo/Penderyn (12-04-2020), ThatOwlWoman (12-03-2020)
It doesn’t matter, they’re not going to Win ever again either way
ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch
evince (12-04-2020)
EC is set up like Congress in terms of amount of electors. That makes enormous sense to begin with.
also YUGE populous states of CA are limited from overwhelming the popular vote by proportional electors instread
Callinectes (12-03-2020)
Not the first time someone on the left has made this proclamation. The reason it is never right is because not all Americans are political/ideological partisans. (The fact that millions voted for both Obama and Trump shows that.) Thus people get tired of the party in office and want change which is why it's been 30 years since we've seen a party hold power for three consecutive terms.
cancel2 2022 (12-04-2020), leaningright (12-04-2020)
Both parties questioned the Electoral College since it was installed. There have been bills offered that did not win out but were close. In 1969, the house judiciary comm. passed a billl 28 to 6. The House passed it 339 to 70.
In the 1800s there were many attempts to modify or kill it. Nobody loved it until the Repubs do now.
blackascoal (12-04-2020), evince (12-04-2020)
Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!
THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!
There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)
Into the Night (12-04-2020)
blackascoal (12-04-2020), evince (12-04-2020)
A. Biden won with legal votes.
B. You cannot cite any illegal votes.
C. You cannot cite 10 million illegal alien votes for either him or Obama.
D. No city has admitted this, nor can you show that one has.
E. Why do you hate yourself for not knowing which black pimp was your daddy?
blackascoal (12-04-2020), evince (12-04-2020), Frank Apisa (12-04-2020)
blackascoal (12-04-2020), evince (12-04-2020)
So you want a REAL "democracy"? You might want to read this: https://www.thoughtco.com/were-ancie...to-vote-118831
The whole article is pretty good, but a few points popped right out:
- Only males (free and, originally, propertied; later, also born to two Athenian-born parents) could become citizens.
Hmmm...Sounds a lot like America until 1920
- Only citizens could vote.
No brainer even today...except to demorats
- These potentially voting citizens were limited to those without a personal or inherited mark (atimia) against them.
"Atimia" has a few different meanings, but mostly used as describing any disenfranchised person, such as a woman, a slave, or a CONVICTED FELON.
- In addition, what's true about one period of democracy is not necessarily true of another.
Granted. 2020 America isn't ancient Athens. It isn't even 18th century America(where George Washington won 100% of the vote, which was of course the electoral collage vote, because there was no nation-wide popular vote until 1836). Which brings us back to 2020 America and this clusterfuck of an election, which you jackasses have managed to turn into a horrifying preview of "democracy" in action.
“The Communist party must control the guns.”
― Mao Tse-tung
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”-Generally attributed to Uncle Joe Stalin
“Everything under heaven is in utter choas; the situation is excellent.”
― mao tse-tung
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