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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    I think the trouble with American discussions about these issues is that they are obsessively bound up with the 'God' notion rather than the way people behave. American 'Christians' are mostly all about 'God' but appear to behave like drunken pigs.
    as a good Welshman I'm sure you prefer sheep?.....
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    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    THEN TELL US HOW YOU BELIEVE THE UNIVERSE CAME TO BE, ADN WE'LL SEE WHO "NEEDS NO PROOF"....
    My answer would be: I have no fucking idea.

    I would need no proof, because I KNOW I do not know how the universe came into existence...an d I am not willing to make any blind guesses (sometimes called "beliefs.")

    So big mouth...tell us: Who needs no proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    I think the trouble with American discussions about these issues is that they are obsessively bound up with the 'God' notion rather than the way people behave. American 'Christians' are mostly all about 'God' but appear to behave like drunken pigs.
    Of course some Christians are hypocrites. Nobody ever claimed otherwise. My observation, however, is that most people of faith do make an effort to live by Christian principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Once you buy into a belief system with zero proof the need for proof is gone. asg knows this and just says stupid shit because he knows his base is christian with no need for proof or evidence,
    We're not cocksucking faggots like you, and our beliefs have been around for 2k+ years?


    You just want justification for your perverse sexual stuff. No.. Dude, the whole of society is not led by their genitals.

    Smart people do not think with their junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yeah, he's very good at preying on the simple, the gullible, the willing.
    That being said, most devout Christians that I've known in my life have often questioned their own faith. I think it's an admirable trait. They are definitely humble in their beliefs, and seldom tend to be the in-your-face-believe-like-I-do-or-go-to-hell types.
    Guessing if it wasn't for the subject of what passes as Christianity wouldn't have to be trying to buy back my misspent youth purchasing US Constitutions at the National Archives only to be stolen & in all probability burned by this Christian Nation.

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    you are the the Crown of Creation


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Of course some Christians are hypocrites. Nobody ever claimed otherwise. My observation, however, is that most people of faith do make an effort to live by Christian principles.
    The Republican efforts at loving their neighbours as themselves should make for a humility they don't seem to show. but I judge not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Once you buy into a belief system with zero proof the need for proof is gone.
    It is not possible to prove faith, by definition.

    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    asg knows this and just says stupid shit because he knows his base is christian
    Bigotry. There are MANY atheists and Church of No God believers who also happen to be Trump supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    with no need for proof or evidence,
    It is not possible to prove faith, by definition. There IS evidence for Christianity. The Holy Bible is evidence for it. Life itself is even evidence for it. Your denial of such evidence does not make it go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It is not possible to prove faith, by definition.


    Bigotry. There are MANY atheists and Church of No God believers who also happen to be Trump supporters.


    It is not possible to prove faith, by definition. There IS evidence for Christianity. The Holy Bible is evidence for it. Life itself is even evidence for it. Your denial of such evidence does not make it go away.
    are you oneof those snake handling pentecostals

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It is not possible to prove faith, by definition.
    Bigotry.
    It is not possible to prove faith, by definition. There IS evidence for Christianity. The Holy Bible is evidence for it. Life itself is even evidence for it. Your denial of such evidence does not make it go away.
    A fabricated misnomer immaculate Jesus the Christ conception is evidence of a Christiananality pedophilia faith of the "man is God" suicidal super ego diatribe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Once you buy into a belief system with zero proof the need for proof is gone. asg knows this and just says stupid shit because he knows his base is christian with no need for proof or evidence,
    No religion can be proven either True nor False. Religions do, however, use evidence, typically as supporting evidence.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
    "Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
    "Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
    "Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
    "no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
    "Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
    "Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    THEN TELL US HOW YOU BELIEVE THE UNIVERSE CAME TO BE, ADN WE'LL SEE WHO "NEEDS NO PROOF"....
    Unknown. We don't even know if there was a beginning to the Universe. It is quite possible that it has always existed, and always will. Indeed, this model is supported by the Bible.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
    "Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
    "Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
    "Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
    "no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
    "Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
    "Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    I dont do belief
    Does God exist? Does any god or gods exist?
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Does God exist? Does any god or gods exist?
    not anything that has been proven

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