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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    OMG.
    so now you dismiss using Steele dossier ( when the FBI knew it was fake) for FISAs as no big deal
    Dotty is...err...dotty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Christ it's been so long I can't even recall the scope of Durham's charter.
    This is either the mother of all RICO or a giant waste of trying to make abuse of power into a criminal charges

    one of these days Durham will croak up results.
    Well according to JPP marxists, Special Counsels are holy ground and must be protected at all costs

    They are “independent”

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Ulike Comey Durham is waiting till afetr the election - DoJ policy.
    You're referring to Comey's announcement of new material in the Clinton email case a week before the election?

    Neither Comey nor anyone else at the FBI revealed a damn thing about the Trump Russia investigation - not even its existence - before the election. If the aim was to torpedo Trump, don't you find that a little odd? Actually, there's more "evidence" that they were out to get Hillary, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    You're referring to Comey's announcement of new material in the Clinton email case a week before the election?

    Neither Comey nor anyone else at the FBI revealed a damn thing about the Trump Russia investigation - not even its existence - before the election. If the aim was to torpedo Trump, don't you find that a little odd? Actually, there's more "evidence" that they were out to get Hillary, lol.
    what?
    it was still a counterintelligence op until June 2016. WTF would Comey "reveal "anything when he was running informants against the Trump campaign . There were leaks however- Comey isn't above playing slimeball


    Timeline of media's role in selling 'Trump-Russia collusion' tale
    https://justthenews.com/accountabili...sion-narrative

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what?
    it was still a counterintelligence op until June 2016. WTF would Comey "reveal "anything when he was running informants against the Trump campaign . There were leaks however- Comey isn't above playing slimeball


    Timeline of media's role in selling 'Trump-Russia collusion' tale
    https://justthenews.com/accountabili...sion-narrative
    trump is a counterintelligence op. a stupid fuck piece of shit corrupt asshole who had no problem colluding with russia or letting his cronies and sons collude with them. had nothing at all to do with the Steele Dossier, stupid fuck. and the Steele Dossier was a collection of raw data the former chief of the British Secret Service office in Moscow had collected from his contacts concerning Putin's desire to help Trump win because of his fear and hatred of Clinton, who knew what a fucking cold blooded killer Putin is and would try to contain him. you try to act like there was nothing to the russian meddling when the investigation by Mueller, a lifelong republican hired by Trump's own FBI and DOJ picks, indicted 32 Russian agents, indicted Trump's National Security Adviser for meetings with top Russians and then lying about it, revealing an email chain between Trump's elder son and a Russian operative who told Donnie that Putin wanted to help his dad and wanted to send an attorney to meet with him to give them dirt on Hillary...and instead of turning that rat in and informing the FBI about Russian meddling, he said HE WOULD LOVE IT...and set up a meeting in Trump Tower with Trump's Campaign Manager Manafort and Trump's most trusted adviser, Jared. AND YOU SAY IT WAS A FUCKING HOAX? even when Trump's own Attorney General Sessions RECUSED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN CAUGHT LYING ABOUT MEETING WITH RUSSIAN AGENTS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    trump is a counterintelligence op. a stupid fuck piece of shit corrupt asshole who had no problem colluding with russia or letting his cronies and sons collude with them
    poor quality rant.
    Mueller says you are full of shit per usual as well.
    there was absolutely no Russian collusion with Trump or anyone in the campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    poor quality rant.
    Mueller says you are full of shit per usual as well.
    there was absolutely no Russian collusion with Trump or anyone in the campaign
    can you read at all? mueller clearly shows many examples of trump and russian collusion, stupid fuck. but he also says that collusion is not a crime, just rotten and unamerican. in other words, yes, trump and his clown car cronies accepted meetings with russian agents, never told the FBI about the russians reaching out to them, tried to keep it secret, even lied about these meetings, BUT FROM WHAT MUELLER COULD GATHER, THEY NEVER MADE ANY QUID PRO QUO DEALS WITH THESE RUSSIANS, they just encouraged them by meeting with them and not telling the FBI, which is COLLUSION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    can you read at all? mueller clearly shows many examples of trump and russian collusion, stupid fuck. but he also says that collusion is not a crime, just rotten and unamerican. in other words, yes, trump and his clown car cronies accepted meetings with russian agents, never told the FBI about the russians reaching out to them, tried to keep it secret, even lied about these meetings, BUT FROM WHAT MUELLER COULD GATHER, THEY NEVER MADE ANY QUID PRO QUO DEALS WITH THESE RUSSIANS, they just encouraged them by meeting with them and not telling the FBI, which is COLLUSION.
    taking a requested meeting is not a collusion. You would criminalize exploratory meetings - leftists are such fascists.

    The rest of this drivel is meaningless. Mueller was clear on the findings of no collusion.
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Attorney General William Barr has appointed U.S. attorney John Durham as a special counsel to investigate the origins of the FBI’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election."

    "The appointment formalizes Durham’s ongoing probe, but more significantly, would give Durham latitude to continue the politically explosive investigation after President-elect Joe Biden takes office in January."

    "The extension of Durham's probe into the Biden administration raises the specter that it could stretch even longer than Mueller's 22-month probe of Russian interference and the Trump campaign. Democrats noted the duration of Durham's efforts and blasted Barr for his decision."

    “In an appointment secretly conferred on Durham prior to the election and only disclosed now that Barr concedes there is no evidence of election fraud to overturn the results, Barr is using the special counsel law for a purpose it was not intended: to continue a politically motivated investigation long after Barr leaves office"

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...-russia-441872

    Must be Billy Barr felt he could at least appease Trump after declaring even he couldn't find any fraud in the 2020 election and had to publicly admit the truth

    Interesting how the champion for the imperial presidency, who was appointed as Trump's fixer for largely authoring a lengthy narrative on his disapproval of Mueller investigating a sitting President, appoints a Special Prosecutor during a lame duck period on his way out the door.

    Matters little, obvious Durham ain't found anything in the seven months he has been at it, and although it is questionable if Biden could fire Durham, the new AG can control the scope and size of Druham's investigation, just like Rosenstein and Barr did with Mueller, ain't going to be any probe into "the truth ain't the truth" Rudi's Biden innuendos
    SO THE CRIMINALS CANNOT STOP THEIR BEING INVESTIGATED.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    poor quality rant.
    Mueller says you are full of shit per usual as well.
    there was absolutely no Russian collusion with Trump or anyone in the campaign
    Russian collision equals talking to Russians lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Russian collision equals talking to Russians lol.
    one poster frequently says there were enough Russians around to park cars.
    This is what they think an investigation into a presidential candidate should be based upon -
    and without telling the candidate...Self delusional Russiaphobia unleashed by the intel agencies
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    one poster frequently says there were enough Russians around to park cars.
    This is what they think an investigation into a presidential candidate should be based upon -
    and without telling the candidate...Self delusional Russiaphobia unleashed by the intel agencies
    Just like with the election: the skullduggery is obvious—it’s only a question of getting sufficient evidence.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Just like with the election: the skullduggery is obvious—it’s only a question of getting sufficient evidence.
    but you cant get investigations or hearings because you dont have have sufficient evidence.
    You have testimony
    so nothing gets looked at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    but you cant get investigations or hearings because you dont have have sufficient evidence.
    You have testimony
    so nothing gets looked at.
    The time element works hugely in democrats favor because it’s impossible to do an exhaustive investigation of the election between now and January and there’s zero chance Biden’s DOJ would do it.

    Basically, they’re going to get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    taking a requested meeting is not a collusion. You would criminalize exploratory meetings - leftists are such fascists.

    The rest of this drivel is meaningless. Mueller was clear on the findings of no collusion.
    you are an easily played trump voter, even for a trump voter-

    Myth: Mueller found “no collusion.”

    Response: Mueller spent almost 200 pages describing “numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” He found that “a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.” He also found that “a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations” against the Clinton campaign and then released stolen documents.

    While Mueller was unable to establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians involved in this activity, he made it clear that “[a] statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.” In fact, Mueller also wrote that the “investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

    To find conspiracy, a prosecutor must establish beyond a reasonable doubt the elements of the crime: an agreement between at least two people, to commit a criminal offense and an overt act in furtherance of that agreement. One of the underlying criminal offenses that Mueller reviewed for conspiracy was campaign-finance violations. Mueller found that Trump campaign members Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with Russian nationals in Trump Tower in New York June 2016 for the purpose of receiving disparaging information about Clinton as part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” according to an email message arranging the meeting. This meeting did not amount to a criminal offense, in part, because Mueller was unable to establish “willfulness,” that is, that the participants knew that their conduct was illegal. Mueller was also unable to conclude that the information was a “thing of value” that exceeded $25,000, the requirement for campaign finance to be a felony, as opposed to a civil violation of law. But the fact that the conduct did not technically amount to conspiracy does not mean that it was acceptable. Trump campaign members welcomed foreign influence into our election and then compromised themselves with the Russian government by covering it up.

    https://time.com/5610317/mueller-rep...ths-breakdown/

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