All Deaths vs Covid Deaths in the U.S.

[Stretch]

I think it has already been established that most young children become A-Symptomatic to the virus.

What is sobering and alarming is the fact that the world has not seen a virus with such a huge Infection and Death rate as this virus since the Spanish flu.

That virus killed over 50 million people before it was all said and done.

And medical scientists are pretty sure that this one will too- Because the world today is even more socially adapt, and has no virus in our lifetime to compare it to.

The only case study we have to compare it to is the Spanish flu- and the only mitigation processes we know are what it took to wipe out the Spanish flu.

THE CDC is trying to use the same processes that were proven to work back during the Spanish flu.

You would think that the public would be educated enough to know that we must have a mitigation process in place or the virus is just going to run out of control until we can vaccinate the public.

Help or stay home and get out of the way- PLEASE!

The numbers have have overblown from the start. The coding on cases and deaths have been COMBINED probable & confirmed since April by the CDC; it's always been on their website.

[Geeko Sportivo]

Not too many people were asymptomatic with the Spanish Flu.

There’s no comparison, really.

Not sure medical science is ready to make that assessment. There were no tests available to measure that kind of thing back during the Spanish flu. So you should not just pull something like that out of your ass and say it here in the forum as if it were true!

You know you Trumptards really must stop pulling shit out your ass!

For you own good- try to avoid the virus- and stay safe. Protect your loved ones.

A vaccine is coming. And hopefully in 8 months, or so, we can immunize the planet!

BUT PLEASE STOP WITH THE DISINFORMATION! THAT IS ONLY MAKING MATTERS WORSE!

[Poor Richard Saunders]

She's quoting the CDC stats.

Actually, she isn't really. She is simply cherry picking CDC data to try to support a viewpoint. (And then after looking at the actual data either she was using preliminary and incomplete data or she is flat out lying about the data.)

It is statistical heresy to pick 3 weeks in April to compare and claim that proves anything. Deaths don't happen on given weeks. They are pretty random. For deaths to vary by 2,000 per cause in a given week from year to year should be expected. It is nothing more than statistical noise. It makes up less than 4% of the total deaths. In any given year the number of deaths from heart disease can vary from 11,000 to 14,000 per week.


Let's look at some of the claims.
Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged.
A look at the CDC data shows that this may be true but it is misleading. The average number of deaths has been above 50,000 per week for the last few years. In 2019 the most deaths in a week was 58,620. In 2018 there were only 6 weeks above 60,000 and of those only 2 were above 65,000 and the most deaths in a single week was 67,664, In 2017, only 2 weeks were over 60,000 and the highest was 61,251. In 2014 - 2016, there were zero weeks where deaths broke 60,000.
So for the 266 weeks prior to Covid there were only 10 weeks that broke 60,000 and only 2 that broke 65,000. (This includes 2 weeks in January of 2020.) To claim that means that 50,000-70,000 deaths was common is a complete misrepresentation of the actual data. Since Covid we have seen 17 out of 30 weeks break 60,000 and we have broken 70,000 4 times with the highest death total for a week being 78,966 which is over 10,000 more than any previous week.

Prior to Covid less than 4% of weeks broke 60,000 deaths.
After Covid more than 50% of weeks broke 60,000 deaths.
That is a rather stark difference that is impossible to ignore unless you are trying to ignore it.

“If [the COVID-19 death toll] was not misleading at all, what we should have observed is an increased number of heart attacks and increased COVID-19 numbers. But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn’t give us a choice but to point to some misclassification,
There is a very real problem with that statement in that we haven't seen a decrease in heart disease related deaths. Through week 40 of the last 3 years -
2018 - 502,995
2019 - 504,331
2020 - 508,484
We have actually seen an increase which we should expect as the population growth would mean more deaths. But the increase seems to be more than should be expected based solely on population.

This year by Thanksgiving the US had exceeded the number of deaths in the US for the total years of 2018, 2019 and every year prior to that. With 6 weeks to go in the year the US is on pace to exceed the death total from last year by over 300,000 and it could be close to 400,000 if the rate of deaths climb back up above 70,000 deaths per week.

Data can be found here -
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Cou...uses/3yf8-kanr


And the retraction of the article can be found here:
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/articl...ue-to-covid-19
Because of these inaccuracies and our failure to provide additional information about the effects of COVID-19, The News-Letter decided to retract this article.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

This year by Thanksgiving the US had exceeded the number of deaths in the US for the total years of 2018, 2019 and every year prior to that. With 6 weeks to go in the year the US is on pace to exceed the death total from last year by over 300,000 and it could be close to 400,000 if the rate of deaths climb back up above 70,000 deaths per week.

US deaths per year -
2017 - 2,813,503
2018 - 2,839,205
2019 - 2,852,609
2020 - 2,810,691 YTD as of 11/14 (week 46) with data not complete - all weeks with complete data are 58,000+ deaths per week.

Based on the preliminary data, we can expect another 20,000+ deaths to be reported for the weeks 11/14 and earlier as more data comes in.

With 6 weeks left in the year even if we just do the minimum of 58,000 deaths per week we end up with 3,178,000 deaths for 2020.
That would mean 326,000 more deaths in 2020 than in 2019.

[Geeko Sportivo]

The numbers have have overblown from the start. The coding on cases and deaths have been COMBINED probable & confirmed since April by the CDC; it's always been on their website.

You need to start thinking for yourself and know when your thinking is being controlled by others.
If you go through life listening to and believing in every conspiracy theory you hear, you may very well ignore good advice.

NOW HEAR THIS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO SKEW THE VIRUS INFECTION RATES OR DEATH TOTALS.

AND NO ONE IS BUT TRUMPTARDS!

NOW HEAR THIS ALSO- TRUMP LOST THE ELECTION- THERE IS NO LONGER ANY NEED TO CHASE HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES- AS IT WILL NOT MAGICALLY MAKE HIM THE PRESIDENT AGAIN!

FORGET DONALD TRUMP AND HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES!

IT's TIME FOR ALL TRUMPTARDS TO GET BACK TO REALITY AND MOVE ON!