firing squads, poison gas, no strangulation?? trump approves more execution methods

[Bill]

On the death penalty, two things:

First, it is an obvious necessity for a society to have. Why? Because there are criminals who are so dangerous that they constitute one to other prisoners and the guards in any prison they are placed. Why should a society subject inmates who are doing their time correctly and the guards that watch them to the dangers of being attacked and injured or killed by a criminal inmate? Life without parole is no deterrent to such a person. Solitary confinement is no guarantee that they cannot carry out such crimes in prison. Thus, the way to deal with such persons is eliminate them entirely from society by death.

The manner of execution so long as it is reasonably humane is almost irrelevant. Why should a person sentenced to death for the most serious crimes our society has be treated gently as if those putting him to death were the guilty party?

Yes, but there have been many put to death, & then later be found not to have committed the crime, that is my major drawback

[Bill]

So that it will better serve as a deterrent. Execution shouldn't be hidden away as though we are ashamed of what we're doing. If we're going to use it as a punishment or deterrent, put it out there for all to see.

ETA: Like your sig line!

I don't think death is much of a deterrent for many of these ppl sitting on death row.....

[T. A. Gardner]

Yes, but there have been many put to death, & then later be found not to have committed the crime, that is my major drawback

More like a few of those cases, not "many." That is also becoming less of a problem as modern forensics and the near omnipresence of things like security cameras are making evidence easier to obtain.

[Bill]

More like a few of those cases, not "many." That is also becoming less of a problem as modern forensics and the near omnipresence of things like security cameras are making evidence easier to obtain.

Isn't one innocent man sitting on death row to many??

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I wonder what happens if a particular state does not have a death penalty? This will end up in court.

It only applies to Federal executions.
The Federal government has it's own prisons and legal system which is separate from state prisons and legal systems.
States have a mishmash of execution methods authorized by state law in each of those states.

[moon]

[Nordberg]

The Innocence Project has gotten almost 400 people out of prison via bad trials and DNA .97 percent were charged with rape or murder. How many innocent people have been executed? Executing people puts us with the brutal nations of the world. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-...ound-the-world

[T. A. Gardner]

Isn't one innocent man sitting on death row to many??

No. I know that sounds harsh, but the reality is mistakes are going to happen. If the system in place is being as thorough as it can to ensure that doesn't happen, then it is working. Yes, we should still improve on that where possible but we shouldn't let a mistake by it rule the system. To change the old saying a bit. It isn't better that ten guilty men go free rather than a innocent man go to prison... That's more the case we're talking about today.

Look at what's happening with those cities that are ending cash bail bonds and just letting criminals out of jail once arraigned and charged.

[T. A. Gardner]

The Innocence Project has gotten almost 400 people out of prison via bad trials and DNA .97 percent were charged with rape or murder. How many innocent people have been executed? Executing people puts us with the brutal nations of the world. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-...ound-the-world

400 out of what, millions of cases? There are over 1.2 million locked up in the US today. Four hundred doesn't amount to one in ten thousand cases. That's really an infinitesimally small portion. I'd say the system is doing pretty damn good to have that few errors in it.

[Nordberg]

400 out of what, millions of cases? There are over 1.2 million locked up in the US today. Four hundred doesn't amount to one in ten thousand cases. That's really an infinitesimally small portion. I'd say the system is doing pretty damn good to have that few errors in it.

What percentage of innocent people being jailed for decades and then executed reaches your threshold. How many innocent have suffered in an unimaginably cruel way? I bet you can guess the Project cannot defend all. There are many more suffering and who will be killed. There are many innocent we killed. Do you really think that is OK?
Just put them in jail for life. Problem solved.

[moon]

The underpinning, uncivilized, flaw in the death penalty is that the authorities want to kill.

[T. A. Gardner]

The underpinning, uncivilized, flaw in the death penalty is that the authorities want to kill.

Absolutely wrong, completely wrong.

[Sailor]

Absolutely wrong, completely wrong.

That goat fucker never gets anything right.

[Trumpet]

That goat fucker never gets anything right.

Another of your dimwit post, by Poopeye.

[Flash]

That's a good point. I don't know what the outrage here is about. The feds should always defer to the states in these matters unless there is some clear and present danger to the public as to why they should not defer.

I'm conflicted about the death penalty. On one hand my sense of justice says that there are some who should not be allowed to walk among us, even if we lock them up in solitary confinement until they croak of natural causes. On the other hand there have been far too many death penalty sentences of the mentally-deficient, mentally-ill, too-poor-to-afford-effective-counsel, totally innocent (way too many of those!), and then there is the racial and wealth disparity too.

I'd rather reserve the death penalty for totally egregious cases. And make the executions public.

You never know when the totally egregious case turns out to be totally innocent.

If we are not reasonably sure the person is guilty he should not be convicted.