Cleaning up Trump's Mess: The Job Begins Day One.

[Bulletbob]

Well a majority of Americans, including republicans decided taking a chance of that cluster was preferable to the known cluster we have had.....

Well we already know Joes a cluster, his history shows that , do you think he will cure cancer and covid like he said he would along with uniting America and creating 750 million jobs.

Wil uncle blow hole joe be tough on Iran and china like trump has or will he fold up like a cheap towel in a hotel laundry.

[Bill]

Well we already know Joes a cluster, his history shows that , do you think he will cure cancer and covid like he said he would along with uniting America and creating 750 million jobs.

Wil uncle blow hole joe be tough on Iran and china like trump has or will he fold up like a cheap towel in a hotel laundry.

Did you also ask if trump would cure cancer??

You know that is an unrealistic expectation, kinda like that wall trump promised Mexico was gonna pay for.

Iran is no threat to the USA.........

Ya'll need to move on & let the ME be the ME......

We spent trillions & nothing changed.

Red China is breathing down out throats..
You wanna get on his ass, I would recommend starting there..

[katzgar]

The problem with Medicare for All is those providers that can make a profit without being in that system are likely not to be in that system, particularly if the government is setting the payment schedule artificially low.

Aside from that, giving everyone Medicare doesn't solve the problem with those who can't pay the deductible or afford supplementary insurance. If you go to a system where these people are getting it for free with no payment then the costs become borne 100% by the government who will be forced to cover that with higher taxes on those who are employed. So, the end result is the government is almost forced by their actions to take over the whole system.

You should just stop you're being a moron

[katzgar]

Well we already know Joes a cluster, his history shows that , do you think he will cure cancer and covid like he said he would along with uniting America and creating 750 million jobs.

Wil uncle blow hole joe be tough on Iran and china like trump has or will he fold up like a cheap towel in a hotel laundry.

You make some stupid posts but this is one of the dumbest. We have had no agreement or treaty with Iran since your piece of ass not backed out of it. So how is having absolutely no control over Iran being hard in Iran they can now pursue nuclear weapons totally unfettered you stupid piece of ass snot

[Bulletbob]

Did you also ask if trump would cure cancer??

You know that is an unrealistic expectation, kinda like that wall trump promised Mexico was gonna pay for.

Iran is no threat to the USA.........

Ya'll need to move on & let the ME be the ME......

We spent trillions & nothing changed.

Red China is breathing down out throats..
You wanna get on his ass, I would recommend starting there..

Well Biden said he would cure cancer ,and covid he also claimed he will unite America and create 750 million jobs among many other things .Not my fault he said these things.

Yes Iran is a threat to America and the world . They are well known to sponsor terrorist across the globe, they are a threat to safe navigation where much of the worlds oil comes from and they also are a threat to the world if they developed nukes.
I can easily see them attacking Israel with nukes under a weak America president who they think will not respond and start a ww3 only with nukes.
And thats why they are a danger, they are run by religious nut cakes up support holy wars.

China is also a threat to America if they got a good foot hole in the south china sea it could affect trade world wide and they are expanding their navy and nuke aresonal.

Biden wants to make deals with china and Iran and hes a weak man no spine.

[Bill]

Well Biden said he would cure cancer ,and covid he also claimed he will unite America and create 750 million jobs among many other things .Not my fault he said these things.

Yes Iran is a threat to America and the world . They are well known to sponsor terrorist across the globe, they are a threat to safe navigation where much of the worlds oil comes from and they also are a threat to the world if they developed nukes.
I can easily see them attacking Israel with nukes under a weak America president who they think will not respond and start a ww3 only with nukes.
And thats why they are a danger, they are run by religious nut cakes up support holy wars.

China is also a threat to America if they got a good foot hole in the south china sea it could affect trade world wide and they are expanding their navy and nuke aresonal.

Biden wants to make deals with china and Iran and hes a weak man no spine.

I don't recall biden saying that, do you have a link to the quote??

I thought you were an America firster?? Why not let other countries deal w/ their problems, we have enough of our own, yea think??

[katzgar]

Well we already know Joes a cluster, his history shows that , do you think he will cure cancer and covid like he said he would along with uniting America and creating 750 million jobs.

Wil uncle blow hole joe be tough on Iran and china like trump has or will he fold up like a cheap towel in a hotel laundry.

You are literally the slesiest piece of ass snot on the planet

[Walt]

The problem with Medicare for All is those providers that can make a profit without being in that system are likely not to be in that system, particularly if the government is setting the payment schedule artificially low.

It would be like it is now, except everyone would be covered. There are doctors who reject all insurance coverage, and charge such insanely high rates that no insurance would pay it. If you can pay a million dollars out of pocket, then go with them. There are doctors who reject some insurance, but not others, now. With Medicare For All, some doctors will reject some supplemental insurance, but not others. The only difference will be that everyone will have some coverage.

This is not a new system. Medicare has worked well for the fifth of the people over 65. Medicare For All would expand it out to the other four fifth of the population.

Aside from that, giving everyone Medicare doesn't solve the problem with those who can't pay the deductible or afford supplementary insurance.

It reduces a bill from say $100,000 to say $5,000. That is a major move in the right direction. The last bit can be solved by the system absorbing the cost, government aid, private charity, or a dozen other solutions.

If you go to a system where these people are getting it for free with no payment then the costs become borne 100% by the government who will be forced to cover that with higher taxes on those who are employed.

Right now the United State and Canadian governments spend about the same amount per capita on health care. The Canadians have everyone covered, and the US has fewer than a third covered. The issue is we have so many people with no coverage, neither private nor public, that run up bills they do not pay, and the system has to absorb. The system absorbs it by trying to force private and public bill payers to pay more. This creates a complex fight that ends up making the whole system cost far more.

In other words, we are paying MORE in taxes because we do not have universal healthcare, not less. The proof of that is in the most comparable country to the USA around.

[Bulletbob]

I don't recall biden saying that, do you have a link to the quote??

I thought you were an America firster?? Why not let other countries deal w/ their problems, we have enough of our own, yea think??

of course I have a link , seems democrats have no clue about some of joes crazy claims

[cancel2 2022]

Democrats always have to clean up after Republicans

Is there even one empty slogan and worn out cliche you haven't used?

[Walt]

of course I have a link , seems democrats have no clue about some of joes crazy claims

We are on the verge of some major breakthroughs in curing cancer. They are being held up by a government who treats cancer as incurable. I look forward to America at least trying to cure cancer.

[Bill]

of course I have a link , seems democrats have no clue about some of joes crazy claims

I dunno if they do or not, I didn't follow Biden or his campaign nor did I vote for him....

Claim kinda reminds me of the trump lie about Mexico paying for the wall.

Or this line where trump said the same fuckin thing

“We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases, including cancer and others,” he said. “And we’re getting closer all the time.”

As we all know cancer is not one but many diseases & hopefully they find some cures in our life time

[Granule]

Biden will have a cluster f*ck to deal with, when he take's office?!!

Oh, hell no.

But he will have a blast filling the swamp back up.

[T. A. Gardner]

It would be like it is now, except everyone would be covered. There are doctors who reject all insurance coverage, and charge such insanely high rates that no insurance would pay it. If you can pay a million dollars out of pocket, then go with them. There are doctors who reject some insurance, but not others, now. With Medicare For All, some doctors will reject some supplemental insurance, but not others. The only difference will be that everyone will have some coverage.

Not true. Many doctors reject Medicare because it doesn't pay enough to cover their costs of operation. They'd be taking a loss on using the payment schedule.

https://www.investopedia.com/article...e...%20More%20

Why Some Doctors Won’t Accept Medicaid

When comparing reimbursement rates among health insurance plans, Medicaid is the lowest payer, meaning it’s not a moneymaker for doctors’ offices. Paired with the administrative requirements of accepting public insurance, doctors sometimes just don’t want the hassle.

https://health.usnews.com/health-new...see-the-doctor

This is not a new system. Medicare has worked well for the fifth of the people over 65. Medicare For All would expand it out to the other four fifth of the population.

Medicare hasn't worked as well as you think. It's a good deal for the low end of the population, as it is better than nothing and often cheaper than buying insurance. But it doesn't deliver a quality product, and providers who take just Medicare are often harder to find or ones that provide a lower (cheaper) level of service. After all, they have to keep their costs down to make a profit or even break even on providing care.

It reduces a bill from say $100,000 to say $5,000. That is a major move in the right direction. The last bit can be solved by the system absorbing the cost, government aid, private charity, or a dozen other solutions.

No. It shifts costs from the patient to the public. Somebody is still paying that $100,000 bill. We should be working to reduce costs, not shifting money around to hide those costs like we are.

Right now the United State and Canadian governments spend about the same amount per capita on health care. The Canadians have everyone covered, and the US has fewer than a third covered. The issue is we have so many people with no coverage, neither private nor public, that run up bills they do not pay, and the system has to absorb. The system absorbs it by trying to force private and public bill payers to pay more. This creates a complex fight that ends up making the whole system cost far more.

In other words, we are paying MORE in taxes because we do not have universal healthcare, not less. The proof of that is in the most comparable country to the USA around.

But Canadians often come to the US for their health care. Many come to Arizona to go over into Mexico and get their medical care and prescriptions there.

The bills you mention don't go away. Somebody ends up paying them unless they are written off. If the government runs the system, then they are a reliable payer but they will put a cap on payments because they can. Providers will then cut corners to reduce their costs to lower than the payment schedule. The result is a lower quality of service and care.

The solution to all this isn't to change who pays, but to change the entire system of payment.

[Bill]

Oh, hell no.

But he will have a blast filling the swamp back up.

He will be changing the water, it never emptied any place but in the minds of children & fools.......