Reply With Quoteblackascoal (11-27-2020)
Never Again
Donald Trump Retweets Call to Pardon Himself
Trump faces the prospect of lawsuits and criminal investigations upon leaving office, which his position has previously protected him from. There have been suggestions he could, ahead of leaving his position as commander-in-chief, attempt to pardon himself preemptively from federal crimes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...lf/ar-BB1bnsc9
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blackascoal (11-27-2020)
The Force is With Me
This is why he’s fighting so hard to keep his get out of jail free card?Originally Posted by guno
New York is anxiously waiting for his corrupt fat ass.
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020), Trumpet (11-27-2020)
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If he does try to pardon himself that will be an admission of guilt.
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Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020)
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Interesting concept. But who would honor that pardon?
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His Trumpidiot cult.
Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020)
In Yo Face!
Letitia James doesn’t care ... she going to Dog Trump for the rest of his pathetic piece of shit life.
Can’t get away from the STATE
ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch
Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020)
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I think Trump is playing, that there is no way he will pardon himself, and that if he did there is no way SCOTUS would allow it.
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
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Admission of guilty to what? There will not be any charges, yet.
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Is it just DOJ policy not to prosecute a sitting president? I thought the Supreme Court ruled a president is not immune from criminal prosecution.
"In a 5-4 decision, the Court ruled that the President is entitled to absolute immunity from legal liability for civil damages based on his official acts. The Court, however, emphasized that the President is not immune from criminal charges stemming from his official or unofficial acts while he is in office." [Nixon v. Fitzgerald]
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If you bother to read the details of pardon, it includes an admission of guilt, the committing of criminal acts.
However a pardon is meaningless when it comes to state charges.
Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020)
Canceled
Shouldn't you be burning a building down or looting some shops?
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If a president pardons (himself or others) before any charges have been filed, what crime are they pleading guilty to? I thought the purpose of the pardon was to prevent the conviction.
If a person is pardoned after they have already plead guilty and been convicted of a crime it seems moot.
What was Nixon guilty of? Is he a convicted of a felony or misdemeanor?
ButterMilk Man
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Interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon...n%20indictment.The Ford White House considered a pardon of Nixon, but it would be unpopular in the country. Nixon, contacted by Ford emissaries, was initially reluctant to accept the pardon but then agreed to do so. Ford, however, insisted on a statement of contrition; Nixon felt he had not committed any crimes and should not have to issue such a document. Ford eventually agreed, and on September 8, 1974, he granted Nixon a "full, free, and absolute pardon" that ended any possibility of an indictment. Nixon then released a statement:
I was wrong in not acting more decisively and more forthrightly in dealing with Watergate, particularly when it reached the stage of judicial proceedings and grew from a political scandal into a national tragedy. No words can describe the depth of my regret and pain at the anguish my mistakes over Watergate have caused the nation and the presidency, a nation I so deeply love, and an institution I so greatly respect.[12][13][14]
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
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Why dont you smarten up for a change and look up the definition of a pardon. No one cares about your opinion, try for some facts for a change.
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Why didn't you just say you don't know? I did not include any opinions in my post, I was asking questions for somebody who might know.
Obviously, there is no answer to whether a president can issue an "open" pardon like he did Nixon.
Saying a pardon is a plea of guilty is somewhat limited. The Burdick case which issued that opinion was about a man who turned down his pardon to avoid losing his 5th Amendment right.
Assume a person is convicted of a crime and goes to prison and is then proven not guilty. If the president pardons that person and he accepts the pardon, does that mean he is pleading guilty to a crime he has already been proven he did not commit?
Maybe Floridafan will smarten up and help us out with this one.
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