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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    What you say is truer than true.

    Republicans in general confuse the word Democracy with the word Democrat just for the mere fact that the two words have 7 of the very same letters of the alphabet. SO therefore- Democracy is a Democrat thing.

    If you ever mention the word Democracy to a Republican, they will respond with, "We are not a Democracy- We are a Republic.

    Because Republic has 8 of the very same letters of the alphabet as Republican.

    This is how ignorant Republicans are. They do not even know what a Republic is or what a Democracy is- They just repeat Rush Limbaugh, as he was one of the first ones to tell them, "WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY" and because Democracy sounds like a Democrat thing.

    And if you try to explain to a Republican that we are actually a Democratic Republic- they will deny that that is even possible. You may as well try to nail jello to a tree rather than try to educate or explain something to a Republican.
    Another massive pile of lie filled stupidity. Statements from worthless lying dumb fucks like you after four years of your pathetic anti-American, Fascistic bullshit is the definition of irony.

    Shit stains on the left don't give a fuck about Democracy. They are Fascists whose only interest is CENTRALIZED political power. Spare us your BULSHIT asswhipe.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    It can.

    But the problem is that too many Americans do not believe in democracy.

    That is the problem. You cannot unify a nation if a large minority does not even want a democracy.


    It can't.

    Too many totally incompatible factions trying to share the same government is the perfect recipe for epic failure.

    You say that a large minority doesn't want democracy, but it's much worse than that.
    We have no consensus on how to define democracy.

    To the ignorant, it means freedom from social responsibility.
    The enlightened realize that democracy requires social responsibility.
    These opposing views can and will not be reconciled.
    Unification is a Pollyanna pipedream but nothing that remotely approaches an actual possibility.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Thank you for, once again, epitomizing the Modern Liberal mindset. Again, it helps explain why 70% of all voting Americans are not Democrats.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...y-think-215114
    These findings confirm that conservatives, liberals, the religious and the nonreligious are each prejudiced against those with opposing views. But surprisingly, each group is about equally prejudiced. While liberals might like to think of themselves as more open-minded, they are no more tolerant of people unlike them than their conservative counterparts are.

    Political understanding might finally stand a chance if we could first put aside the argument over who has that bigger problem. The truth is that we all do.
    You either have a stutter or your keyboard is stuck on copy and paste. You've said that to me at least 3 or 4 times. I'm not a Democrat; and I don't fucking care. Find an audience, loser. After you find your balls and a position that you can support for ten seconds.
    Awesome. Then it should be easy for you to link where I've posted that Politico story before.

    You do care and you are my audience, Chris, Pat or whatever the fuck your real name is.

    Surely, you understand others can read this, but the fact you reply to my posts is clear evidence you care and feel threatened by ideas outside of your own little narcissistic realm.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post

    It can't.

    Too many totally incompatible factions trying to share the same government is the perfect recipe for epic failure.

    You say that a large minority doesn't want democracy, but it's much worse than that.
    We have no consensus on how to define democracy.

    To the ignorant, it means freedom from social responsibility.
    The enlightened realize that democracy requires social responsibility.
    These opposing views can and will not be reconciled.
    Unification is a Pollyanna pipedream but nothing that remotely approaches an actual possibility.
    So you were all for unity when Trump won in 2016?


    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Trump is the elite class, you idiot.
    Yeah, it takes a REAL elitist to GIVE AWAY his $450K salary to good causes every year, right, you dumb, ignorant cunt?

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Trump is the elite class, you idiot.
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    Proof that Trump supporters are idiots.
    ^Dumber and Dumbest in an echo chamber of bullshit.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you were all for unity when Trump won in 2016?
    Obviously not. You love to quote my posts, bullshit blob
    but that would be even more fun if you were capable of reading them, you stupid cracker..
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    From your keyboard to Krom's ears. In your opinion, do most young people in your age group feel the same? My kids are ages 33 - 45, with one exception they agree with you. The oldest is somewhat more socially conservative although like any thinking human being completely rejects Trump and the Trump cult. I would dearly love to get more under-50-year-olds on board with things like a national health plan, low-cost or even free college and trade school education, improved infrastructure, and a downsizing of the defense budget. What progressive ideals interest you?
    It sounds like you raised some good humans and that you all value independent thought. Congratulations to you -- sincerely.

    I think my demographic generally (let's call it ages 30-45, give or take) feels similarly. We disagree amongst ourselves about government spending. There are still a lot of religious people in my age group who feel strongly about abortion and same sex marriage. We even have a ton of disagreement about gun control. However, I do feel confident in saying that most people my age are "liberal" in the sense that we believe in individual rights and win-win games. Few of us have suffered the tragedies of wars. We've been showered with affection and compliments. I think that most of us are good people who believe that other people are good.

    Biden is no savior. He wasn't even the best Democratic candidate if you ask me. But this kamikaze death spin into lies, conspiracies, racism, misogyny, homophobia, and unrepentant, unashamed hate has to stop. Trump is the worst type of person. He inspired and encouraged the worst impulses in other people. We've had enough. Biden is good enough for now.

    As far as policies go, I'm generally supportive of the ones you listed. Health care is a no brainer to me. It is inexcusable and nauseating that people who live in the richest country in the history of human existence don't get a cold or a flu or whatever diagnosed because they can't afford to walk inside a clinic. It's fucking barbaric. I was a high school teacher before I moved into an industry that pays significantly more. My mom is an early childhood developmental specialist. I have two young nephews who I love very much. There is nothing more important, more powerful, and more valuable than an education. I think that our young ones should have free, universal, high quality preschool. I think our public schools should be adequately funded and staffed with the best educational professionals in the world. I think cocurricular activities and social development should be as important as proficiency testing and daily attendance. I think that post-secondary education in the humanities or sciences or trades or whatever should be easily attainable and available to everyone. I travel a lot. The US is truly a "shithole" when it comes to roads and airports and bridges. Infrastructure is a no brainer to me, but we've been talking about this for decades and doing barely more than nothing about it the entire time. The defense budget is bloated, but that's because we decided many years ago to outsource everything the military does. My dad cooked and cleaned, maintained tanks and guns, and led PT sessions when he was in the US Army. Now a contractor does all of it. The defense budget is an absolute sham and a nightmare, but the overall federal budget is an even bigger problem.

    Aside from what you mentioned (and I'm sorry this has gotten so long, but I become verbose when someone asks me a good question), I have been intensely interested in social justice and equality for my entire life. I am a non-white, non-straight man who was not born in the US. I spend up to 50% of my time in Europe, Asia, and Mexico. An American minority, to me, is everyone who is not a straight, white, Christian, old man. I don't resent their privilege. I just want them to acknowledge it and allow for some of the blessings of the land of milk and honey to drip down to the rest of us. I believe in women's reproductive rights and equal pay for equal work. I believe in the right of homosexual couples to marry and for that marriage to be recognized by the federal government (not the churches -- I am not a religious person). I believe that certain law enforcement forces have lost accountability and need to be wholly rebuilt. I believe that all lives matter, but I also know that black lives in this country have been systematically stomped into the ground for centuries and that the legacy of that oppression and discrimination is a weight that every breathing American carries every single day -- whether we choose to admit it or not. I believe that literacy, food security, and constant access to potable water should be universal. Above all, I believe that we're all in this together. I believe in the Golden Rule. I make mistakes and I say mean things, but I'm very mindful about the people that receive that type of reaction from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    American Nazis voted for Trump. All of them.


    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ^Dumber and Dumbest in an echo chamber of bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Obviously not. You love to quote my posts, bullshit blob
    but that would be even more fun if you were capable of reading them, you stupid cracker..
    I asked you a simple question, you dumb ignorant lying little cunt; were you all for UNITY when Trump won in 2016??
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I asked you a simple question, you dumb ignorant lying little cunt; were you all for UNITY when Trump won in 2016??
    Again, proof that bullshit blob can't read.
    I've already answered, OBVIOUSLY NOT.
    Maybe he can find someone to read it to him this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Biden is no savior. He wasn't even the best candidate if you ask me.
    Even the dumbest among us get something right once in a while. Yay you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    But this kamikaze death spin into lies, conspiracies, racism, misogyny, homophobia, and unrepentant, unashamed hate has to stop.
    The Democratic Party of the Jackass owns this kamikaze death spiral of lies, conspiracies, racism, misogyny, homophobia, and unrepentant, unashamed hate you dumb, ignorant cunt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Trump is the worst type of person. He inspired and encouraged the worst impulses in other people. We've had enough. Biden is good enough for now.
    Trump was the much needed outsider medicine a sick and despondent nation needed. You morons on the left refused to accept his win and spent the next four years in a death spiral of lies, conspiracies, racism, misogyny, homophobia, and unrepentant, unashamed hate.

    Now you're going to find out what FAILURE really looks like. I hope you choke to death on it. Dumb ignorant cunt.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    banning you
    Big fucking deal. Go fuck yourself, dumb cunt.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I've already answered, OBVIOUSLY NOT.
    Obviously you didn't. So don't expect much sympathy or cooperation from us for the next four years. Try to be less of an asshole and a dishonest hypocritical moron.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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