Basic math & the election fraud myth

[katzgar]

Timing. A handful of blue areas where Trump was winning at midnight ALL take a massive Biden ballot dump together at 4a.m. Um-hmm.
Be at peace. It was science. You guys love science. It was in the algorithms.

You have a deep-seated psychological need to turn reality into a conspiracy theory I think there's probably some sort of psychosomatic drug that you can take for it

[christiefan915]

Again: mail-in was generally counted last, and that broke big for Biden. As was expected.

The repub-controlled legislature in PA supported mail-in voting before they hated it, the hypocrites.

October 31, 2019
HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Gov. Tom Wolf signed legislation Thursday that advocates say makes the most significant changes to modernize Pennsylvania election laws in 80 years and authorizes the state to borrow of up to $90 million to help counties buy new voting machines ahead of next year’s presidential election.

Wolf, a Democrat, said the legislation takes the nation’s least voter-friendly election laws and puts them in line with states that have the highest voter turnout.

The bill was negotiated privately by Wolf and leaders of the Republican-controlled Legislature. A draft first appeared last week. It passed the House and Senate on Tuesday and had the support of good-government groups.

https://apnews.com/article/6d9642e84...dd19e55e2354aa

[Stretch]

You have a deep-seated psychological need to turn reality into a conspiracy theory I think there's probably some sort of psychosomatic drug that you can take for it

science denier.

[Dachsund]

First, people keep repeating the myth that they "stopped counting the votes at midnight." They didn't. That is completely fabricated.

But beyond that, there is some very simple math that debunks any claims of "massive fraud":

1) There was a huge # of mail-in votes. Pre-election polls showed Dems voting via mail-in by a 2-1 margin over Republicans. Most precincts counted mail-in last. Ergo, there was no "magical" late break in Biden's favor. When they counted the mail-in, Biden generally picked up a lot of ground. As was mathematical, and expected.

2) To coordinate the kind of fraud that the right is alleging would involve hundreds of willing participants: from political leaders to precinct managers to vote counters to even those who drove the ice cream trucks full of fake ballots. Hundreds. Per research, if more than half a dozen people are involved in any plot, there are generally leaks. A fraud effort on the scale that they are accusing Dems of would have easily leaked by now - and there is no way it would stay some sort of secret indefinitely.

2 + 2 = a legit election, that Joe Biden won.

The link below will explain exactly how the Democrats used a massive fraud operation to steal the Nov 3rd election. It will provide you with a detailed analysis of how the Democrats cheated. It is a lengthy document, but worth reading if you genuinely want to know the TRUTH of what happened.





https://www.unz.com/article/the-domi...lection-fraud/




Dachshund

[ExpressLane]

First, people keep repeating the myth that they "stopped counting the votes at midnight." They didn't. That is completely fabricated.

Georgia said there was a water leak and sent everyone home. FORSURE

But beyond that, there is some very simple math that debunks any claims of "massive fraud":

1) There was a huge # of mail-in votes. Pre-election polls showed Dems voting via mail-in by a 2-1 margin over Republicans. Most precincts counted mail-in last. Ergo, there was no "magical" late break in Biden's favor. When they counted the mail-in, Biden generally picked up a lot of ground. As was mathematical, and expected.

So your 2 to 1 margined should mean there were twice as many Democrats mail in vote for Biden than Republican mail in votes for Trump . Correct? If you watch the PA Hearing they recently had they discussed the mail in spike anomalies. there were 570+Thousand votes for Biden and 3,200 votes for Trump . Shouldn't that have been 285 + thousand votes for Trump then?

2) To coordinate the kind of fraud that the right is alleging would involve hundreds of willing participants: from political leaders to precinct managers to vote counters to even those who drove the ice cream trucks full of fake ballots. Hundreds. Per research, if more than half a dozen people are involved in any plot, there are generally leaks. A fraud effort on the scale that they are accusing Dems of would have easily leaked by now - and there is no way it would stay some sort of secret indefinitely.

I know bartenders think they are experts on everything but the witness that was a computer fraud expert and runs a company that helps protect against computer fraud said it would take only "a few people" to have committed the computer fraud suspected. I trust his opinion over yours .

2 + 2 = a legit election, that Joe Biden won.

0 + 0 = a corrupt election that Biden stole.

[BartenderElite]

Georgia said there was a water leak and sent everyone home. FORSURE

But beyond that, there is some very simple math that debunks any claims of "massive fraud":

So your 2 to 1 margined should mean there were twice as many Democrats mail in vote for Biden than Republican mail in votes for Trump . Correct? If you watch the PA Hearing they recently had they discussed the mail in spike anomalies. there were 570+Thousand votes for Biden and 3,200 votes for Trump . Shouldn't that have been 285 + thousand votes for Trump then?

I know bartenders think they are experts on everything but the witness that was a computer fraud expert and runs a company that helps protect against computer fraud said it would take only "a few people" to have committed the computer fraud suspected. I trust his opinion over yours .

0 + 0 = a corrupt election that Biden stole.

So, are you on record than as abandoning all of the other voter fraud claims that do not relate specifically to the Dominion software? Because that's a lot of claims, and would mean that you think Trump is lying almost constantly. Dominion is part of Trump's rhetoric - but there are many other components to the "massive fraud" he has been emphasizing.

He's lying, then?

Would love to see the evidence for Rudy's claim on the 3,200 for Trump. Still, that County is certainly not Trump country.

And your justification for the repeated falsehood that "they stopped counting the votes at midnight" is one county in GA that took a pause in counting due to a water leak?

Really?

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The link below will explain exactly how the Democrats used a massive fraud operation to steal the Nov 3rd election. It will provide you with a detailed analysis of how the Democrats cheated. It is a lengthy document, but worth reading if you genuinely want to know the TRUTH of what happened.





https://www.unz.com/article/the-domi...lection-fraud/




Dachshund

If the Dominion machines were all hacked then how did Trump win Mississippi, Louisiana and Utah since those states only use Dominion machines?

If Dominion machines are changing votes then why did the hand count of paper ballots in Georgia match the count from the Dominion machines?

The truth is there is no evidence of Dominion machines changing any votes. The easiest way to double check the election is to start a gofundme to pay for a hand count of the entire country. Go for it. See if you can get the money to do it. The problem is you will then have to claim that the Democrats swapped out ballots from locked rooms in order to keep your fantasy going.

[ExpressLane]

So, are you on record than as abandoning all of the other voter fraud claims that do not relate specifically to the Dominion software? Because that's a lot of claims, and would mean that you think Trump is lying almost constantly. Dominion is part of Trump's rhetoric - but there are many other components to the "massive fraud" he has been emphasizing.

He's lying, then?

No I never said that. In fact it would take a relatively few people to insert thousands of artificially produced mail in ballots into the system. No Republican was allowed to watch them in take the ballots or verify the signatures.

Would love to see the evidence for Rudy's claim on the 3,200 for Trump. Still, that County is certainly not Trump country.

I suspect you will get the chance to see that evidence eventually. Remember a former Colonel and fraud expert was showing Rudy the data. I suspect he was correct. Trump country or not 570,000 to 3,200 seems very unlikely. That's like 99.5% Biden to 0.5% Trump. I don't think there is any county with that kind of percentage. Anyway its certainly not 2 to 1 as you said.

And your justification for the repeated falsehood that "they stopped counting the votes at midnight" is one county in GA that took a pause in counting due to a water leak?

Really?

No but it was pointing out you were lying when you said there was no stoppage of the counting. Really.

[BartenderElite]

No I never said that. In fact it would take a relatively few people to insert thousands of artificially produced mail in ballots into the system. No Republican was allowed to watch them in take the ballots or verify the signatures.

I suspect you will get the chance to see that evidence eventually. Remember a former Colonel and fraud expert was showing Rudy the data. I suspect he was correct. Trump country or not 570,000 to 3,000 seems very unlikely.

No but it was pointing out you were lying when you said there was no stoppage of the counting. Really.

Where did I lie?

The conservative line is that the vote counting in battleground states "mysteriously stopped at midnight." That's completely false - 100% fabricated.

There was a brief stoppage in one county, due to a water leak. That's it. That doesn't support the claim that is now being regularly repeated that there was some sort of coordinated cessation of counting across at least 6 states to prevent Trump from winning and allow a massive "ballot dump" in those states with fabricated votes for Biden.

[John Barron]

No one cares what the Trumpidiots say or repeat anymore. Trump lost. Election over.

[ExpressLane]

Where did I lie?

First, people keep repeating the myth that they "stopped counting the votes at midnight." They didn't. That is completely fabricated.

You lied because we know for a FACT that they declared that a water leak had forced them to stop the counting in the
The conservative line is that the vote counting in battleground states "mysteriously stopped at midnight." That's completely false - 100% fabricated.

Oh Really?

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/pipe-b...ote-counting/#

There was a brief stoppage in one county, due to a water leak. That's it. That doesn't support the claim that is now being regularly repeated that there was some sort of coordinated cessation of counting across at least 6 states to prevent Trump from winning and allow a massive "ballot dump" in those states with fabricated votes for Biden

.You are now moving the goal posts. A clear sign you have lost.

[BartenderElite]

Intellectual honesty. It's a thing.

[BartenderElite]

So, just to clarify - the repeated lie that "Democrats stopped counting votes at midnight!" that is used to justify "massive voter fraud!" is backed up by the fact that they had to briefly stop counting votes in one GA county due to a water leak.

Again - intellectual honesty. It's a thing.

[Nordberg]

The Repub appointed judges in Pa. said Trump's claiming fraud does not make it so. Trump has nothing to argue with. They threw his silly cases out. Trump is clinging to the idea that a case will go up to the Supremes and he will win there.
The real math is quite simple. Trump lost. Biden had 6.2 million votes and lost the EC 306 to 232. Those are real numbers.

[ExpressLane]

Intellectual honesty. It's a thing.

Try to use it some times.