blackascoal (11-27-2020), Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020), Iolo/Penderyn (11-28-2020)
blackascoal (11-27-2020), Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020), Iolo/Penderyn (11-28-2020)
You want to ignore the clear meanings of the words in the Constitution? Your attempt to redefine the term "levying war" is really pretty laughable. No constitutionalist judge would even consider your attempt to be valid. War has a very clear meaning that hasn't changed. "War" as used in the Constitution requires an actual use of weapons. You don't get to redefine it however you want. Only the USSC can do that and the USSC is currently filled with constitutionalists. By the way the term "levying war" has a legal definition that goes back to English Law. https://legal-dictionary.thefreedict...om/Levying+war
Then you should know that the USSC has already ruled on this issue in 1807 in Ex Parte Bollman and Ex Parte Swartwout. In that case in the decision written by Justice Marshall the court made it very clear To constitute a levying of war, there must be an assemblage of persons for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonable purpose. Enlistments of men to serve against government is not sufficient.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/8/75/
But there is more to the requirement for proving treason. You must also have 2 witnesses to the overt act. That requires that the act is overt. You might want to look up the word "overt." It bears rather heavily when you try to present your specious evidence.
We have already dispensed with your specious "war" argument. But let's examine the rest of your "evidence" of wiretapping of the Trump campaign. First of all, there is zero evidence that the Trump campaign was ever eavesdropped on. There is zero evidence that Trump was personally surveilled by any government agency in 2016. The only evidence we have of anyone being spied upon is the FISA warrant for Carter Page which occurred when Page was not part of the Trump campaign. Not only do you not have 2 witnesses to an overt act. You only have false claims that no evidence supports.The secret war that the Obama White House declared against Donald Trump before Trump was even elected, was indeed a war "levyed" against the United States, when you understand what happened through * Ahem !* a more thoughtful perspective. Though it was not a war that was waged with late - 18th century weapons like muskets, swords and cannons. The "weapons" that Obama and his leftist "Deep State" intelligence and law enforcement agencies used against the "enemy", Donald Trump were advanced, electronic and cyber "wiretapping" technologies. This "wiretapping" technology enabled Obama and his flunkies to carry out covert surveillance of Trump and his campaign team in 2016 - to eavesdrop on their iPhone conversations and read the email text messages that they sent to each other and, of course, the content of any internet communications they were having with THE RUSSIANS !! THE RUSSIANS !!
!! THE RUSSIANS !!.
Please provide your evidence of when and how the Trump campaign was wiretapped. You have to name the specific person and you have to show that at the time their communication was intercepted they were working for the Trump campaign. The problem you have Dachshund is that you have no such evidence. The only question is whether you are willing to admit that you don't have the evidence.
Made up shit and random events that do not constitute a criminal act let alone treason as defined in the US Constitution. You seem to think that because Hillary wasn't arrested that proves she committed a crime. I stand by my earlier statement. You do need to find some RW nutcase to shoot you in the head in the hope that it might blow some brains in.
It happened like this...
Wow.. I would love to see you try to bring this shit into a courtroom. You would get thrown out so fast because you have no evidence. You have hearsay and conspiracy theories which no judge will accept.
Dachshund
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
NONE of the above face ANY serious threat of being jailed for bullshit right wing fantasies, NONE OF THEM. However, Trump is running from getting locked up and having his bank account raided for serious crimes that are already being investigated,
Lock him up, lock him up .. and while the courts are at it, lock up his children as well
Lock them up, lock them up.
Last edited by blackascoal; 11-27-2020 at 12:47 PM.
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Guno צְבִי (11-27-2020)
For treason? Because none of the three, Biden, Obama, nor the Hildabeast are close to being treasonous. On the other hand, Biden was, and probably still is, up to his eyeballs in quid pro quo deals with foreign nations. That is illegal, highly illegal.
Obama is most just a retard. Yea, he's a Progressive Leftist but that isn't a crime, just an indication of terminally stupid. Besides, the guy is too lazy to put in the effort to be a true criminal.
The Hildabeast is an unindicted serial felon but that doesn't make her treasonous. It does make her a career criminal but that's a different matter from the one posed here in this thread.
Since Biden has made his tax returns public perhaps you can point to the money that you think he obtained illegally.
https://joebiden.com/financial-disclosure/#
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