Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 63

Thread: After a summer of protests Seattle cuts police department funding by 17%

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    27,172
    Thanks
    8,743
    Thanked 11,971 Times in 7,228 Posts
    Groans
    12
    Groaned 863 Times in 803 Posts
    Blog Entries
    7

    Default After a summer of protests Seattle cuts police department funding by 17%

    Seattle City Council votes to cut funding by 18%

    Mayor Jenny Durbin says that these thoughtful reductions will help scale up alternatives to policing.

    NBCNews.com
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

    Even science no longer makes sense.

  2. The Following 2 Users Groan At blackascoal For This Awful Post:

    Grokmaster (11-24-2020), Primavera (11-24-2020)

  3. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to blackascoal For This Post:

    Cinnabar (11-24-2020), guno (11-24-2020)

  4. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    Mid-West
    Posts
    22,970
    Thanks
    2,410
    Thanked 13,595 Times in 8,217 Posts
    Groans
    4
    Groaned 813 Times in 723 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    So will thousands of municipalities due to COVID

    Nice Try
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

  5. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    27,172
    Thanks
    8,743
    Thanked 11,971 Times in 7,228 Posts
    Groans
    12
    Groaned 863 Times in 803 Posts
    Blog Entries
    7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    So will thousands of municipalities due to COVID

    Nice Try
    The Seattle City Council on Monday cut its police department budget by nearly 17% in a shift that grew out of this summers national protests against systematic racism. I believe we are laying the groundwork to make systematic and lasting changes to policing, Durbin said in a statement. We have rightly put forward a plan to ensure that SPD has enough officers to meet 911 response and investigative needs through the city, while acknowledging and addressing the disproportionate impacts policing has had on our communities of color, particularly the black community.

    Nice try indeed.
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

    Even science no longer makes sense.

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to blackascoal For This Post:

    Cinnabar (11-24-2020), guno (11-24-2020)

  7. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    29,410
    Thanks
    196
    Thanked 12,714 Times in 8,845 Posts
    Groans
    3,822
    Groaned 2,954 Times in 2,741 Posts

    Default

    Corona is slaughtering the tax base, Over 100,000 businesses in America shuttered. Millions are unemployed.

  8. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    27,172
    Thanks
    8,743
    Thanked 11,971 Times in 7,228 Posts
    Groans
    12
    Groaned 863 Times in 803 Posts
    Blog Entries
    7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Corona is slaughtering the tax base, Over 100,000 businesses in America shuttered. Millions are unemployed.
    Agreed, but this has less to do with Covid and far more to do with a national outrage.
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

    Even science no longer makes sense.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to blackascoal For This Post:

    guno (11-24-2020)

  10. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    27,172
    Thanks
    8,743
    Thanked 11,971 Times in 7,228 Posts
    Groans
    12
    Groaned 863 Times in 803 Posts
    Blog Entries
    7

    Default

    Los Angeles, San Francisco, Baltimore, Washington, DC, Hartford, Connecticut, Portland, Oregon, Seattle, Salt Lake City, and Philadelphia are among cities reducing police budgets

    At least 13 cities are defunding their police departments— FORBES

    At least 13 US cities have cut funding from their police department budgets or decreased officer numbers with several more in the process amid a national reckoning over systematic racism and police brutality according to a Forbes tally.

    Austin, Texas is the latest to announce a police defunding effort, with the City Council on Thursday voting unanimously to cut 150 million, roughly a third from the police budget , reinvesting much of that money into food access, violence prevention, and abortion access.

    The countries two largest cities New York and Los Angeles, approved budget cuts weeks after protests began. New York slashed 1 billion from its 2021budget, totalling 88.9 billion, while Los Angeles approved a 150 million dollar cut from its
    1.86 billion proposed budget.

    San Francisco a 120 million dollar cut to i.6 million dollar reduction
    ts police and Sheriff departments.
    Oakland, California passed a 14.6 million dollar reduction
    Washington,DC a 15 million dollar cut
    Baltimore a 22 million dollar cut
    Portland cut 16 million
    Philadelphia cut 33 million
    Hartford, Connecticut cut 1 million from its 40 million dollar budget
    Norman, Oklahoma cut 865,000 from its police budget
    Salt Lake City slashed 5.3 million from its police budget

    Several other cities are mulling the reallication of funds from their own departments

    Forbes
    Last edited by blackascoal; 11-24-2020 at 03:32 PM.
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

    Even science no longer makes sense.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to blackascoal For This Post:

    guno (11-24-2020)

  12. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Posts
    5,334
    Thanks
    3,804
    Thanked 3,099 Times in 2,111 Posts
    Groans
    773
    Groaned 623 Times in 539 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Agreed, but this has less to do with Covid and far more to do with a national outrage.
    I get the outrage but don't understand how slashing police budget helps this. They'll be even less training and probably even more hires from those with tactical experience from elsewhere. In other words, it might just increase the brutal tactics when they hire in more people trained in the military with even less police training.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Charoite For This Post:

    Geeko Sportivo (11-25-2020)

  14. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Prairieville
    Posts
    22,913
    Thanks
    2,434
    Thanked 9,610 Times in 6,399 Posts
    Groans
    331
    Groaned 2,933 Times in 2,655 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Agreed, but this has less to do with Covid and far more to do with a national outrage.

    you should have read your article, less embarrassing for yourself

  15. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    97,856
    Thanks
    7,020
    Thanked 28,064 Times in 22,332 Posts
    Groans
    2,407
    Groaned 2,252 Times in 2,145 Posts

    Default

    what could possibly go wrong.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

  16. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    7,561
    Thanks
    2,996
    Thanked 5,443 Times in 3,458 Posts
    Groans
    104
    Groaned 1,115 Times in 975 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    I get the outrage but don't understand how slashing police budget helps this. They'll be even less training and probably even more hires from those with tactical experience from elsewhere. In other words, it might just increase the brutal tactics when they hire in more people trained in the military with even less police training.
    It really didn't seem that the budget was used for training but rather for military gear right out of an actual army invasion. And if funds were being used for training on how to deal with the public, the funds were totally wasted. It absolutely is another broken system of the many we sadly have here in the USA and begs for major revamping.
    BLUEXIT
    A Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red

    Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
    Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.


    It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.

    This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to Cinnabar For This Post:

    guno (11-24-2020)

  18. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    7,561
    Thanks
    2,996
    Thanked 5,443 Times in 3,458 Posts
    Groans
    104
    Groaned 1,115 Times in 975 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you should have read your article, less embarrassing for yourself
    Why should the OP be embarrassed?

    While some Seattle activists had demanded a 50-percent police budget deduction, Mayor Jenny Durkan said she backs these lesser cuts, calling them "thoughtful and deliberate" and saying the city will prioritize "what services we need from the Seattle Police Department and how we can scale up alternatives to policing."

    “I believe we are laying the groundwork to make systemic and lasting changes to policing," Durkan said in a statement. "We have rightly put forward a plan that seeks to ensure SPD has enough officers to meet 911 response and investigative needs throughout the city, while acknowledging and addressing the disproportionate impacts policing has had on communities of color, particularly Black communities."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ly-17-n1248795
    BLUEXIT
    A Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red

    Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
    Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.


    It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.

    This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

  19. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Prairieville
    Posts
    22,913
    Thanks
    2,434
    Thanked 9,610 Times in 6,399 Posts
    Groans
    331
    Groaned 2,933 Times in 2,655 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Why should the OP be embarrassed?

    the cuts are all about a diminished tax base. did you read the article

  20. The Following User Says Thank You to katzgar For This Post:

    Geeko Sportivo (11-25-2020)

  21. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    7,561
    Thanks
    2,996
    Thanked 5,443 Times in 3,458 Posts
    Groans
    104
    Groaned 1,115 Times in 975 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    the cuts are all about a diminished tax base. did you read the article
    I read what I posted and the OP should be embarrassed for highlighting those facts? C'mon.
    BLUEXIT
    A Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red

    Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
    Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.


    It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.

    This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america

  22. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    NC originally from NYC
    Posts
    17,227
    Thanks
    49,483
    Thanked 8,129 Times in 5,336 Posts
    Groans
    51
    Groaned 1,145 Times in 1,080 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    I get the outrage but don't understand how slashing police budget helps this. They'll be even less training and probably even more hires from those with tactical experience from elsewhere. In other words, it might just increase the brutal tactics when they hire in more people trained in the military with even less police training.
    money will be moved to policing alternatives, like mental health squads that will answer situations with mentally ill people and situations that police are ill equipped to handle also demilitarize the police
    Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. Albert Einstein

    America's future is bright, not white

    And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment


    ברוך השם

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to guno For This Post:

    blackascoal (11-24-2020)

  24. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    78,757
    Thanks
    1,960
    Thanked 11,037 Times in 7,211 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 452 Times in 421 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Geebus that's just stupid... If you need social workers, or shrinks, etc. to go along with the cops when they go on calls that you think will be improved by such folks you don't remove funding, you increase it. With less money there will be less training thus ensuring further institutionalized issues that cannot be resolved.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

  25. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Damocles For This Post:

    Into the Night (11-24-2020), Primavera (11-24-2020)

Similar Threads

  1. Seattle cuts police 20%
    By Hawkeye10 in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: 11-25-2020, 08:42 AM
  2. In Seattle, a Black police chief resigns over budget cuts
    By Primavera in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-15-2020, 05:02 AM
  3. Fires and Pepper Spray in Seattle as Police Protests Widen Across U.S.
    By jacksonsprat22 in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 07-26-2020, 01:39 PM
  4. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-26-2019, 10:11 PM
  5. Seattle Police Department drowning in corruption and lawlessness
    By SmarterthanYou in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-11-2012, 12:17 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •