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    John Kerry is a good man, but he's 76 years old and should be thinking about relaxing, not working.

    Film producer/director Michael Moore is ten years younger and a brilliant thinker.
    He was the guy to pick.
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    Kerry did this on his active duty. This is me reading between the lines of his service if you will...

    Kerry was ambitious about getting into politics. Like many aspiring politicians a stint in the military at the time was considered de rigors. It was considered a good resume builder. Kerry got commissioned and entered the Navy. He was sent to a destroyer as a division officer. That's a pretty typical first tour assignment for an officer. But it also didn't do much for making a good political career story later.
    So, Kerry--likely looking through a copy of Link, a publication that back then listed all the open billets and career information for the Navy--likely saw the volunteer for Swift Boats ad in it and applied. Accepted, Kerry went to Swift Boats not having much of a clue what was involved in being there.
    Unlike his position on the destroyer, this was actually dangerous service. So, Kerry worked quickly to get himself some medals and then connived a way of getting the hell out of danger-- which was the 3 purple hearts thing. Now, most people I've ever met that got a purple heart have scars or other trauma to show for it. Not Kerry. He somehow got three and never suffered more than a bandaid needing scratch.
    As an officer, it was reasonably easy for him to initiate the paperwork for his awards. All he had to do was get them past the first gatekeeper, his immediate superior. Once past that hurdle they generally were just rubber stamped up the chain.
    Thus his one-year tour in Vietnam lasted less than 90 days.

    Back home, he found the political winds had shifted against the military and war and he took full advantage of that to switch sides, so-to-speak. He thought it was to his political advantage to do so. Later when all this was coming back to bite him in the ass, he tried his damnest to make it all just disappear and never get mentioned again.

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    John Kerry was a Senator from my state for 28 years.
    During that time, his voting record consistently and accurately represented the will of his constituency.
    In addition, his record for constituent service was equally exemplary, and I personally had satisfactory dealings with him on more than one occasion. .

    Hearing second hand reports from those with substantially less knowledge of the man than my own is merely a form of noise pollution from my perspective,
    and similar posts are a waste of bandwidth.

    My objection to his new appointment has nothing to do with worthiness, which is not reasonably questionable, but rather my feeling that the man has well earned some time in peaceful retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    First, Kerry is a traitor. He's the real deal. His time with the VVAW, the Winter Soldier program, meeting (illegally) with the N. Vietnamese government, etc., all were acts against the US. Read his book The New Soldier some time. It's a shock just how anti-American and traitorous he was.

    Then there's his self-serving time in the US Navy. He's the sort of officer you never, ever want to be under command of. That's based on his assignments and actions and my own experience over 27 years in the Navy. I've seen his type more than once. They are terrible to work for because it's all about getting them promoted.

    On top of that, Kerry is a technological and scientific illiterate. He has no clue about the science and technology he'd be dealing with here. That means he could, and will, be buffaloed by scientists, engineers, and businessmen who have an agenda or align with his own political views. He has no real means of discerning the correct actions from wrong ones to take. An example of that was as a Senator he was on the Committee for Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Lobbists and others that worked with that committee said almost universally that Kerry rarely attended hearings, and was not considered a significant player on it by them. He'd typically just vote with his party or the majority.

    You do know he voted against the Kyoto Climate Treaty don't you? Another indication that Kerry goes whichever way the most favorable wind to his political career is blowing.

    That's some of why he's such a bad choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    John Kerry was a Senator from my state for 28 years.
    During that time, his voting record consistently and accurately represented the will of his constituency.
    In addition, his record for constituent service was equally exemplary, and I personally had satisfactory dealings with him on more than one occasion. .

    Hearing second hand reports from those with substantially less knowledge of the man than my own is merely a form of noise pollution from my perspective,
    and similar posts are a waste of bandwidth.

    My objection to his new appointment has nothing to do with worthiness, which is not reasonably questionable, but rather my feeling that the man has well earned some time in peaceful retirement.
    I am from Mass also. Your description of his accomplishments as Senator is a bit inflated to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Ya-Hoo! Finally, we recognize Climate Change as a serious problem.

    "John Kerry, one of the leading architects of the Paris climate agreement, is getting one more chance to lead the fight against climate change after President-elect Joe Biden named the longtime senator and former secretary of state as climate envoy for national security."
    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...21a2e299388a62
    Lord help us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Kerry did this on his active duty. This is me reading between the lines of his service if you will...

    Kerry was ambitious about getting into politics. Like many aspiring politicians a stint in the military at the time was considered de rigors. It was considered a good resume builder. Kerry got commissioned and entered the Navy. He was sent to a destroyer as a division officer. That's a pretty typical first tour assignment for an officer. But it also didn't do much for making a good political career story later.
    So, Kerry--likely looking through a copy of Link, a publication that back then listed all the open billets and career information for the Navy--likely saw the volunteer for Swift Boats ad in it and applied. Accepted, Kerry went to Swift Boats not having much of a clue what was involved in being there.
    Unlike his position on the destroyer, this was actually dangerous service. So, Kerry worked quickly to get himself some medals and then connived a way of getting the hell out of danger-- which was the 3 purple hearts thing. Now, most people I've ever met that got a purple heart have scars or other trauma to show for it. Not Kerry. He somehow got three and never suffered more than a bandaid needing scratch.
    As an officer, it was reasonably easy for him to initiate the paperwork for his awards. All he had to do was get them past the first gatekeeper, his immediate superior. Once past that hurdle they generally were just rubber stamped up the chain.
    Thus his one-year tour in Vietnam lasted less than 90 days.

    Back home, he found the political winds had shifted against the military and war and he took full advantage of that to switch sides, so-to-speak. He thought it was to his political advantage to do so. Later when all this was coming back to bite him in the ass, he tried his damnest to make it all just disappear and never get mentioned again.
    He's a piece of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    I really don't think this guy is worth your time. He makes furtive attempts to sound intelligent in some posts, but it's pretty clear that if he ever attempted to make a coherent point that extended beyond 220 characters, everyone would see his intellectual bankruptcy.
    I agree with you. I've given everyone here a fair chance and equal time since since I joined JPP. Dutch Uncle is most certainly not worth my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Obviously if you were rich, then you became rich the same way Trump did: Daddy gave it to you.
    You don't know the first fucking thing about my daddy, pussy boi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    like subsidies for wind and solar?......or battery powered cars?......
    Yes, like that. The difference is that cost manipulation of sustainable energy yields a net positive result whereas positive cost manipulation of fossil fuel energy is bad for everyone except the people who profit from the company that sells it.

    Can we establish a minimum IQ on the internet? Jesus fucking christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Ya-Hoo! Finally, we recognize Climate Change as a serious problem.

    "John Kerry, one of the leading architects of the Paris climate agreement, is getting one more chance to lead the fight against climate change after President-elect Joe Biden named the longtime senator and former secretary of state as climate envoy for national security."
    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...21a2e299388a62
    And in normal leftist fashion we make sure to appoint a total hypocrite to fill this "important" office. I mean, nothing says caring about the environment like a man with 5 enormous fuel burning houses and a gas guzzling private jet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I was thinking about Kerry......I didn't actually believe you when you said you had a house.......
    Yes, I can see how you might think that I was posting on JPP from a treehouse in a jungle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    you buy energy from the company that provides service to your neighborhood......just like everyone else.........
    Are you in a competition with Dutch Uncle to be the dumbest fuck on the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    “Climate statesman.”

    Lol
    In Newspeak dictionaries just published in leftist emails across the nation Statesman = Hypocrite. It's doubleplus supergood to be a hypocrite... I mean "statesman".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    You're a flat earth fucking idiot. Although reasonable and educated people may disagree about the extent of the effect of human activity on climate there is no doubt that human activity affects climate. You people should be sterilized.
    Denial of science. Denial of mathematics. You must believe the Earth is flat too, eh?
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