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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You really do let niggers fuck you in the ass, huh?
    Not one R poster here will complain about this blatantly racist post


    They are all racists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    As part of the unprecedented attempt to keep Trump in office despite his election loss, Republicans have focused on Michigan, where the party is seeking a delay in the certification of the vote results and to throw out votes from Detroit, which is overwhelmingly Black.

    A group of Michigan Republicans met with Trump at the White House last week in what was widely viewed as an attempt by Trump to personally pressure the lawmakers to block President-elect Biden from being awarded the state’s 16 electoral votes.

    “This is an attempt to disenfranchise the African American vote and to give the election to Trump,” says Rev. Wendell Anthony, president of the Detroit branch of the NAACP. “If we were in a different country, this would be called a coup, a political coup.”

    https://www.democracynow.org/2020/11...ection_results


    It’s all over except the bleeding out


    The Republican Party has committed suicide

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Not one R poster here will complain about this blatantly racist post


    They are all racists
    Why would anyone complain about a truthful statement, whore? Seems you and Horizontal Harris has something in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Why would anyone complain about a truthful statement, whore? Seems you and Horizontal Harris has something in common.


    And this stupid assed racist just keeps stabbing the Republican Party


    It’s dead already


    The blood just keeps pouring from the wounds by gravity

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    And this stupid assed racist just keeps stabbing the Republican Party


    It’s dead already


    The blood just keeps pouring from the wounds by gravity
    Telling the truth is never deadly. Perhaps your problem is you can't accept the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    Donald Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested.

    No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

    It's time for President-elect Biden and other Democratic leaders to describe his actions in the most forceful and universally understandable language possible.

    And that means, in this case, calling them part of an attempted coup to illegally overthrow the Biden presidency.

    Experts warn that Trump's actions are a threat to our democracy.

    Italy's Benito Mussolini and Nazi Germany's Hitler amassed power through bullying.

    These types of leaders treat silence or muted responses as a sign of weakness, emboldening them to push further with their authoritarian goals.

    Democrats have to ask themselves how they want history to view them: as those who fought ferociously against Trump's efforts to undermine our election or as those who unintentionally appeased him with their silence, allowing him to decimate our democracy.

    Democrats cannot hope that simply ignoring Trump will persuade him to give up.

    His brazen attempts to defraud the American public now include pressuring local GOP elected officials to join his plot.

    Even assuming Trump does vacate the White House on Jan. 20, these types of attacks could have long-term consequences, especially without clear, forceful push-back.

    Countless authoritarian regimes began as democracies.

    Attempts to remain in power against the will of the people are not business as usual in America — they are more akin to something seen in banana republics.

    A Reuters poll released Wednesday found that only 73 percent of Americans said Biden won the election, while 52 percent of Republicans say Trump "rightfully won."

    This is incredibly disturbing, and probably unprecedented.

    Team Biden must also repeatedly highlight Trump's lack of credible evidence of voter fraud.

    Common sense tells us that if the assertions by Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani of a "national conspiracy" to rig the election were true, the Trump effort would have more to show for it.

    It has been nearly three weeks since Election Day.

    Instead, Trump's lawyers lashed out at reporters when pressed for details or data.

    In fact, Giuliani essentially admitted Tuesday in federal court in Pennsylvania that there is no voter fraud, stating, "This is not a fraud case."

    On Saturday night, a federal judge dismissed the Trump campaign's lawsuit in Pennsylvania, calling it a "strained legal argument without merit."

    The same thing happened in Arizona, where Trump's lawyer conceded to the judge that Trump was not alleging voter fraud.

    The actions of the Trump campaign in November could be considered part of a criminal conspiracy to deprive the voters of their rights.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ts-ncna1248573
    Not going to happpen. The Democratic Party is controlled by centrists who have no appetite for fighting for anything. History will judge them as incredibly weak The only attempt to fight back comes from progressive .. of course as they’ve stood up for black voters and all voters in Detroit and all urban cities in court by defining the Trump tactic of trying to throw out millions of valid ballots that overwhelmingly went against Trump.

    Shouldn’t dems be fighting FOR the people who support them?
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    Donald Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested.

    No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

    It's time for President-elect Biden and other Democratic leaders to describe his actions in the most forceful and universally understandable language possible.

    And that means, in this case, calling them part of an attempted coup to illegally overthrow the Biden presidency.

    Experts warn that Trump's actions are a threat to our democracy.

    Italy's Benito Mussolini and Nazi Germany's Hitler amassed power through bullying.

    These types of leaders treat silence or muted responses as a sign of weakness, emboldening them to push further with their authoritarian goals.

    Democrats have to ask themselves how they want history to view them: as those who fought ferociously against Trump's efforts to undermine our election or as those who unintentionally appeased him with their silence, allowing him to decimate our democracy.

    Democrats cannot hope that simply ignoring Trump will persuade him to give up.

    His brazen attempts to defraud the American public now include pressuring local GOP elected officials to join his plot.

    Even assuming Trump does vacate the White House on Jan. 20, these types of attacks could have long-term consequences, especially without clear, forceful push-back.

    Countless authoritarian regimes began as democracies.

    Attempts to remain in power against the will of the people are not business as usual in America — they are more akin to something seen in banana republics.

    A Reuters poll released Wednesday found that only 73 percent of Americans said Biden won the election, while 52 percent of Republicans say Trump "rightfully won."

    This is incredibly disturbing, and probably unprecedented.

    Team Biden must also repeatedly highlight Trump's lack of credible evidence of voter fraud.

    Common sense tells us that if the assertions by Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani of a "national conspiracy" to rig the election were true, the Trump effort would have more to show for it.

    It has been nearly three weeks since Election Day.

    Instead, Trump's lawyers lashed out at reporters when pressed for details or data.

    In fact, Giuliani essentially admitted Tuesday in federal court in Pennsylvania that there is no voter fraud, stating, "This is not a fraud case."

    On Saturday night, a federal judge dismissed the Trump campaign's lawsuit in Pennsylvania, calling it a "strained legal argument without merit."

    The same thing happened in Arizona, where Trump's lawyer conceded to the judge that Trump was not alleging voter fraud.

    The actions of the Trump campaign in November could be considered part of a criminal conspiracy to deprive the voters of their rights.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ts-ncna1248573
    Mussolini also used the courts as Donald does. When you have unlimited money, you can bury your opposition in courts that will take up their lives and fortunes. Trump loses one, and out spits another one. It obviously is not about winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    Donald Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested.

    No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

    It's time for President-elect Biden and other Democratic leaders to describe his actions in the most forceful and universally understandable language possible.

    And that means, in this case, calling them part of an attempted coup to illegally overthrow the Biden presidency.

    Experts warn that Trump's actions are a threat to our democracy.

    Italy's Benito Mussolini and Nazi Germany's Hitler amassed power through bullying.

    These types of leaders treat silence or muted responses as a sign of weakness, emboldening them to push further with their authoritarian goals.

    Democrats have to ask themselves how they want history to view them: as those who fought ferociously against Trump's efforts to undermine our election or as those who unintentionally appeased him with their silence, allowing him to decimate our democracy.

    Democrats cannot hope that simply ignoring Trump will persuade him to give up.

    His brazen attempts to defraud the American public now include pressuring local GOP elected officials to join his plot.

    Even assuming Trump does vacate the White House on Jan. 20, these types of attacks could have long-term consequences, especially without clear, forceful push-back.

    Countless authoritarian regimes began as democracies.

    Attempts to remain in power against the will of the people are not business as usual in America — they are more akin to something seen in banana republics.

    A Reuters poll released Wednesday found that only 73 percent of Americans said Biden won the election, while 52 percent of Republicans say Trump "rightfully won."

    This is incredibly disturbing, and probably unprecedented.

    Team Biden must also repeatedly highlight Trump's lack of credible evidence of voter fraud.

    Common sense tells us that if the assertions by Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani of a "national conspiracy" to rig the election were true, the Trump effort would have more to show for it.

    It has been nearly three weeks since Election Day.

    Instead, Trump's lawyers lashed out at reporters when pressed for details or data.

    In fact, Giuliani essentially admitted Tuesday in federal court in Pennsylvania that there is no voter fraud, stating, "This is not a fraud case."

    On Saturday night, a federal judge dismissed the Trump campaign's lawsuit in Pennsylvania, calling it a "strained legal argument without merit."

    The same thing happened in Arizona, where Trump's lawyer conceded to the judge that Trump was not alleging voter fraud.

    The actions of the Trump campaign in November could be considered part of a criminal conspiracy to deprive the voters of their rights.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ts-ncna1248573
    Mussolini also used the courts as Donald does. When you have unlimited money, you can bury your opposition in courts that will take up their lives and fortunes. Trump loses one and out spits another one. It obviously is not about winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Not going to happpen. The Democratic Party is controlled by centrists who have no appetite for fighting for anything. History will judge them as incredibly weak The only attempt to fight back comes from progressive .. of course as they’ve stood up for black voters and all voters in Detroit and all urban cities in court by defining the Trump tactic of trying to throw out millions of valid ballots that overwhelmingly went against Trump.

    Shouldn’t dems be fighting FOR the people who support them?
    We are fighting for a better, fairer, and brighter future for every American: rolling up our sleeves, empowering grassroots voters, and organizing everywhere to take our country back.

    Democrats believe in bringing the American people together, not stoking division and distrust.

    Trump has denigrated virtually every segment of American society—and in so doing, he has insulted the very idea of America itself. Healing the soul of America means facing up to the deepest inequities in our society, from structural racism to misogyny to discrimination against people with disabilities, and enacting ambitious measures to fix them.

    Democrats are committed to ending discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, language, gender, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, or immigration status.

    We will appoint U.S. Supreme Court justices and federal judges who look like America, are committed to the rule of law, will uphold individual civil rights and civil liberties as essential components of a free and democratic society, and will respect and enforce foundational precedents, including Brown v. Board of Education and Roe v. Wade.

    Democrats are committed to restoring the full power of the Voting Rights Act and ensuring everyone can access the ballot box.

    We will enforce and strengthen the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, and will end racial and religious profiling in law enforcement.


    https://democrats.org/where-we-stand...ul-of-america/

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    It’s all over except the bleeding out


    The Republican Party has committed suicide
    They aren’t dead yet, nor will they be if democrats don’t kill them by fighting back .. and we know that ain’t happening.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    They aren’t dead yet, nor will they be if democrats don’t kill them by fighting back .. and we know that ain’t happening.
    Dems are just GOP lite. Biden already making excuses for Trump and GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    Donald Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested.

    No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election. .
    Nothing new. I can think of GHWB and GWB as the only two presidents whose election results were not attempted to be overturned since 1980 .
    The coup against Trump started before he was inaugurated .

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    What you saw on Election Night from Trump and his entire “cast” was a performance, an event orchestrated to send a message to you and to Trump, himself, regarding his greatness and his singular importance.

    What happens during charades like this is that Trump, just like a child playing “let’s pretend,” actually believes that he is truly the great and important man that the audience and the presidential setting imply.

    Even though Trump likely wrote the entire script and cast the actors in their respective parts, he lives it out as if it were real.

    For these moments as the undisputed center of attention, he is finally the adored one…a feeling he never had as an infant or young child.

    He expresses his unconscious, archaic grievances against the inattentive mother and indifferent father of his childhood, tonight played by the Americans who didn’t vote for him, but this time he has a rapt audience applauding his anger and outrage and expressing its undying affection and support.

    This is a grand enactment of something Trump longed for but never had at the developmentally appropriate ages.

    So now, when he has the chance, he expresses the delusional and paranoid belief that Joe Biden, who is getting the attention that Trump “deserves,” is stealing the election from him.

    How can it be that more people want Joe than want him? That is shatteringly inconceivable to Trump so he calls it a hoax, a fraud, a theft, a rigged election, and by golly he’ll get his followers to agree and then he’ll get the courts to agree.

    A power greater than Joe Biden will restore Trump to his rightful place as the undisputed center of attention which he desperately needs to believe he is.

    Sadly for us and for him we are watching a delusional man re-enact a longed-for scenario from his achingly lonely childhood and we are observing the people in the present moment who are enabling this charade by playing the parts he demands that they play.

    How much of this compensatory scenario will Americans agree to co-enact if it means we have to neglect our own life and death concerns such as Covid and the climate crisis?

    How can we allow ourselves to be bullied into abandoning our own health and safety so that one man gets to finally feel important?

    And by the way, Trump’s unconscious, deep well of need will never be fulfilled no matter how his followers adore him and sacrifice themselves.

    He leaves them stranded in the cold, waiting for buses, because he doesn’t care anything about them except that they provide him with the momentary attention and approbation that he repeatedly needs.

    An actor in a play accepts the applause of his audience but never concerns himself with how they are going to get home.

    On a psychological level, is Trump chronically enacting his own play and are we just his momentary, but perpetually captured audience, silently colluding by permitting the play to go on?

    Is it acceptable that a man like this has the nuclear codes and the power to decide the fate of all of us, perhaps even the entire planet?

    If it’s not acceptable, we must act.

    We will have to contend with Trump’s reaction.

    Will we, the people, the media, the Congress, the judiciary, continue to passively collude in his delusion that he was deprived of what was rightfully his?

    Or will we firmly protect our democratic institutions from abuse by an angry toddler in a suit and tie?


    Madeline Tayler, Ph.D., is a licensed marriage and family therapist residing in Los Angeles.




    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/men...aying-pretend/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    We are fighting for a better, fairer, and brighter future for every American: rolling up our sleeves, empowering grassroots voters, and organizing everywhere to take our country back.

    Democrats believe in bringing the American people together, not stoking division and distrust.

    Trump has denigrated virtually every segment of American society—and in so doing, he has insulted the very idea of America itself. Healing the soul of America means facing up to the deepest inequities in our society, from structural racism to misogyny to discrimination against people with disabilities, and enacting ambitious measures to fix them.

    Democrats are committed to ending discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, language, gender, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, or immigration status.

    We will appoint U.S. Supreme Court justices and federal judges who look like America, are committed to the rule of law, will uphold individual civil rights and civil liberties as essential components of a free and democratic society, and will respect and enforce foundational precedents, including Brown v. Board of Education and Roe v. Wade.

    Democrats are committed to restoring the full power of the Voting Rights Act and ensuring everyone can access the ballot box.

    We will enforce and strengthen the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, and will end racial and religious profiling in law enforcement.


    https://democrats.org/where-we-stand...ul-of-america/
    Sounds real good brother, but almost none of that will happen unless we fight for it. Nearly half the country has no interest in what you’re talking about and they are going to continue to fight for the status quo with or without Trump.

    They fight for what they believe while democrats hope for what they believe.

    Rights are determined by what you can DEMAND, not by what is good, fair, equitable, or by what Jesus would do. The Rights that African Americans have in this country are because of Demand, not by being afraid of the challenges, and if we are to get the horrors of the police off our necks, literally, it will come through DEMAND, with or without the Democratic Party.

    Just hoping for it gets people killed and families destroyed.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Dems are just GOP lite. Biden already making excuses for Trump and GOP.
    I completely agree.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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