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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    what is a reichtard ? some word you made up to impress your self ?

    Tell me which enemies am I taking the word of over what is really true, perhaps Iran like O bung hole and slow joe did and who he plans on taking the word of again or that of china , I think uncle joe has plans to suck up to them also .
    Go away and play in traffic, child. Come back when you can hang with the adults and converse like one as well... comrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    No, we want a more efficient government, not a government handed over to corporations, like republicans want, then claiming they reduced it's size, while raping out treasury.
    Republicans love socialism, just as long as it's all corporate.
    Truth. Ever notice how (R)s never refer to farm price supports as socialism?

    Per Oxford, socialism is defined as "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." The "community," in our system, would be the government, elected and composed of The People.

    For decades, we have had the government giving farmers money to keep them going. The government calculates what crops we need more of and less of, and instructs the farmers to plant those. In exchange, the farmers receive annual payments. If that doesn't fit the definition, what does? Why aren't the RWers crying about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I agree. LBJ was a total racist, POS, low-life, scum of a politician who would have sold his children or wife for a nickel if it got him reelected.
    You might also call him the Father of Modern RW Thinking... and be more correct than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    I think the key point about what you call socialism, i.e. normal capitalism, is that unlike your weird form it doesn't involve anything like as much brainwashing. Ever since McCarthy you have been intellectually pathetic when you discuss society, and I think the dream-world has inevitably produced these unutterably weird trumpers.

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    LBJ was personally unpolished and took on a disastrous war in Viet Nam.

    I don't know what his personal feelings on race were because his personal feelings didn't matter.

    He signed significant civil rights legislation, much of which the right wing SCOTUS has dismantled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Go away and play in traffic, child. Come back when you can hang with the adults and converse like one as well... comrade.
    Comrade Im sorry young lady but I am not a communist. Are you ? implying that I am your comrade imply s you are a communist . Now I doubt you are . But clearly you are upset over the possibility of there being a link between socialism and communisum. Perhaps because youn are a socialist at heart but are unable to admit the truth.

    O yes and telling me to go play in traffic, O my but thats original and creative isn't it.
    Why I bet the smoke coming out of your ears as you tried to come up with something witty to say was a sight to be seen .

    Yes calling me comrade and telling me to go play in traffic was very adult like of you and wonderful adult conversation , a clear display of your maturity level , very impressive. Im betting thats at least 5 th grade humor .
    Along with your cartoon like avatar owl woman straight out of a comic book for kids or those who live in a fantasy world , again a very adult like choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    No, we want a more efficient government, not a government handed over to corporations, like republicans want, then claiming they reduced it's size, while raping out treasury.
    Republicans love socialism, just as long as it's all corporate.
    No as a republican I dont want government handed over to corporations, and I dont know any who do want that .
    From what I have seen democrats seem to support a larger government with more control over the people , while republicans want a smaller government with less control.
    No we are ant socialist very much so and democrats are far more socialist inclined as you can clearly see by thr likes of the squad and bernie .
    but let us use some links .

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...d-worse-on-am/



    https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/democr...n-scandinavia/


    https://www.debate.org/opinions/are-...ts-socialists#!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacomaman View Post
    Troll Alert!!!!!
    Translation: Will you please shut the fuck up about this topic until socialism has taken over America?
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

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    If socialism is a stepping stone to communism we would be able to identify a socialist nation that became communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Truth. Ever notice how (R)s never refer to farm price supports as socialism?

    Per Oxford, socialism is defined as "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." The "community," in our system, would be the government, elected and composed of The People.

    For decades, we have had the government giving farmers money to keep them going. The government calculates what crops we need more of and less of, and instructs the farmers to plant those. In exchange, the farmers receive annual payments. If that doesn't fit the definition, what does? Why aren't the RWers crying about that?
    Because those farms are privately owned. Under socialism they would be run by the government.

    You are correct that agriculture has many government regulations--that is liberalism, not socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    From what I have seen democrats seem to support a larger government with more control over the people , while republicans want a smaller government with less control.
    I used to vote Republican when that was true, but it has not been true for many years. Government spending, deficit, and debt took a large jump under Trump (before the pandemic, worse after). Government increased in size and power and presidential power continued to increase with executive orders and "emergency" actions. Trump did reduce regulations which I support but some those actions allowed rip-offs of tax money such as private for-profit colleges getting federal money with no accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    LBJ was personally unpolished and took on a disastrous war in Viet Nam.

    I don't know what his personal feelings on race were because his personal feelings didn't matter.

    He signed significant civil rights legislation, much of which the right wing SCOTUS has dismantled.
    He is infamous for saying to his colleagues at the time he signed that legislation, "I'll have them ni**ers eatin' out of my hand for the next twenty years!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because those farms are privately owned. Under socialism they would be run by the government.

    You are correct that agriculture has many government regulations--that is liberalism, not socialism.
    I did not state that ag has many regulations. I stated that it has government price supports. According to the current crop of Reichtards, any government money given to any individual or "liberal" corporation (except farms!) is "socialism." "Government Motors" ring a bell? Should we be propping up the price of food with ag support payments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    Comrade Im sorry young lady but I am not a communist. Are you ? implying that I am your comrade imply s you are a communist . Now I doubt you are . But clearly you are upset over the possibility of there being a link between socialism and communisum. Perhaps because youn are a socialist at heart but are unable to admit the truth.
    No, hon, I am not upset about a supposed link between socialism (which is practiced by most of the successful, prosperous countries on this planet) with communism -- which isn't practiced by any country you'd want to even fly over. Why am I not upset? Because there IS no link. You were taught that by those who wish to keep their wealth to themselves... because (hahahaha) someday YOU might be a 1%er and wouldn't it be so UNFAIR if you had to pay more taxes so that we could afford to fix your roads, fund your fire and police dept., educate the kids of your housekeeper so they didn't turn out to be drug dealers, and pick up your trash and keep the unsightly poor ppl away from you?

    Not that you asked for advice because your glass is already full (*snort*), but maybe you might try talking to actual people who live in other nations than ours, about their standard of life. Tip: It's a lot better than yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    No, hon, I am not upset about a supposed link between socialism (which is practiced by most of the successful, prosperous countries on this planet) with communism -- which isn't practiced by any country you'd want to even fly over. Why am I not upset? Because there IS no link. You were taught that by those who wish to keep their wealth to themselves... because (hahahaha) someday YOU might be a 1%er and wouldn't it be so UNFAIR if you had to pay more taxes so that we could afford to fix your roads, fund your fire and police dept., educate the kids of your housekeeper so they didn't turn out to be drug dealers, and pick up your trash and keep the unsightly poor ppl away from you?

    Not that you asked for advice because your glass is already full (*snort*), but maybe you might try talking to actual people who live in other nations than ours, about their standard of life. Tip: It's a lot better than yours.
    not to mention Las and Vietnam , or Ireland where your taxed on even your tv not to mention greece and other failed states . just wonderful places Im sure you would love them all .
    You go live in them and work there and tell me how much you love them

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