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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Lie. All filed lawsuits are still pending, with the exception of one Michigan suit, which was settled out of court in favor of Trump.
    Lie.

    https://apnews.com/article/judge-thr...43c3385c9ba86c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Lie. All filed lawsuits are still pending, with the exception of one Michigan suit, which was settled out of court in favor of Trump.
    Fake news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Since you claim that one can't both win and lose then your argument that he won would be wrong, would it not, since you don't think it is possible to lose a case that was not decided by the court? In reality court cases it is quite common to win and lose at the same time.


    Then when the campaign does not receive what it asked for it must be a loss in order for your argument to make sense.
    If they are restructuring then they didn't get what they asked for which would be a loss. Unless one was being logically obtuse and simply declaring everything a win.

    Trump only withdrew on one lawsuit?
    https://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...rs/3776829001/
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/polit...uit/index.html
    https://time.com/5912350/trump-lawye...-pennsylvania/

    Are you incapable of counting past one?



    The lawsuit which they lost is not pending. The appeal of the decision that they lost is pending.

    The highest courts do not decide lawsuits. They never have and they never will. They decide issues of constitutionality and legality of decisions made by lower courts in which one party, in this case Trump, lost.




    The legal process as a whole states that an appeal can not be filed until a case is decided and there is a loss in the case. I am hardly the one focusing on irrelevancies since you are the one that is refusing to admit that Trump lost when clearly he not only lost based on the court rulings but lost based on the fact that an appeal can't be filed until someone loses a case.
    You are very focused on losing and losses... no wonder you are such a loser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The lawsuit is the particular case and Trump lost. The lawsuit is not still pending since Trump lost. The appeal of the loss is still pending. Your inability to understand that a loss is required before an appeal can be filed is not my problem but yours. Either the legal process matters or it doesn't. If the legal process matters than Trump lost before the appeal was filed. Your distraction from the loss by simply declaring he hasn't lost is not a valid argument when it comes to the legal process. It is simple a refusal on your part to accept the reality that Trump lost and his loss is required before an appeal can be pending. The legal process is not finished but we are at the point in the legal process where Trump lost the case and a loss is required for an appeal of that loss to be filed.
    RQAA. Continued obsession with losses and losing.

    No wonder you are such a loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Yet neither you nor a single human being on the planet has any evidence that any of what you just wrote ever happened anywhere. You're a crackhead.
    Same old msm mantra. WHEEEEERRRRRRRRE'S the evidence???!!!!!!!
    RQAA.

    Lawyers collect evidence (we've seen some already), then in a civil case it will all be presented publicly during the discovery phase.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    You are very focused on losing and losses... no wonder you are such a loser...
    Ad hominem fallacy.

    A more honest approach would have been to admit you were wrong about legal procedure which requires a loss before an appeal can be filed and the original lawsuit is no longer pending because of the decision in the case which created the loss.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Why do you continue posting when you never have any idea what you're talking about? It's so inconvenient for me to have to scroll past all your unmitigated dumbassery.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...-it-s-n1248289
    Fake News. There are not 30 lawsuits filed by Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Since you claim that one can't both win and lose then your argument that he won would be wrong, would it not, since you don't think it is possible to lose a case that was not decided by the court? In reality court cases it is quite common to win and lose at the same time.
    The paradox is yours, dumbass. You must clear it. Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational. Which is it, dude?
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Then when the campaign does not receive what it asked for it must be a loss in order for your argument to make sense.
    It did.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    If they are restructuring then they didn't get what they asked for which would be a loss. Unless one was being logically obtuse and simply declaring everything a win.
    Divisional error fallacy. Pivot fallacy.
    Trump only withdrew on one lawsuit?[/QUOTE]
    Nope. He dismissed one lawsuit because it was settled out of court. He won. THEN Michigan decided to ignore the court.
    Fake News. Ignored.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Are you incapable of counting past one?
    Irrelevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The lawsuit which they lost is not pending. The appeal of the decision that they lost is pending.
    The lawsuit is still pending. The appeal is part of the process.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The highest courts do not decide lawsuits.
    Yes they do. All the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    They never have and they never will.
    WRONG. High courts hear lawsuits.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    They decide issues of constitutionality
    WRONG. No court has authority over the Constitution. See Article III of the Constitution of the United States.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    and legality of decisions made by lower courts in which one party, in this case Trump, lost.
    Trump hasn't lost. The lawsuit is still pending.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The legal process as a whole states that an appeal can not be filed until a case is decided and there is a loss in the case. I am hardly the one focusing on irrelevancies since you are the one that is refusing to admit that Trump lost when clearly he not only lost based on the court rulings but lost based on the fact that an appeal can't be filed until someone loses a case.
    Trump hasn't lost. The lawsuit is still pending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    You're still in the first stage of grief. It's been 18 days since Biden's victory was confirmed. You have the emotional maturity of a lead paint chip. Seek mental health help (remotely, of course).
    Psychoquackery. Denial of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The lawsuit is the particular case and Trump lost. The lawsuit is not still pending since Trump lost. The appeal of the loss is still pending. Your inability to understand that a loss is required before an appeal can be filed is not my problem but yours. Either the legal process matters or it doesn't. If the legal process matters than Trump lost before the appeal was filed. Your distraction from the loss by simply declaring he hasn't lost is not a valid argument when it comes to the legal process. It is simple a refusal on your part to accept the reality that Trump lost and his loss is required before an appeal can be pending. The legal process is not finished but we are at the point in the legal process where Trump lost the case and a loss is required for an appeal of that loss to be filed.
    The lawsuits are still pending. Trump has not lost.
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    False authority fallacy. Fake News. It is not a lie. All filed lawsuits are still pending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    It's terrifying, isn't it? If the electors were ever going to revolt and disregard the election, they should have done it when the least qualified and most dangerous president in American history was elected. But I never even entertained nor supported such a drastic move because that would be un-American. Cue the mouth-breathing Trump supporters who would rather destroy the country than work with a liberal.
    It is Democrats that want to destroy the Constitution and replace it with fascism by oligarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    You are very focused on losing and losses... no wonder you are such a loser...
    He's making semantic fallacy after semantic fallacy. Doublespeak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Ad hominem fallacy.

    A more honest approach would have been to admit you were wrong about legal procedure which requires a loss before an appeal can be filed and the original lawsuit is no longer pending because of the decision in the case which created the loss.
    Fallacy fallacy. Semantics fallacy. The lawsuits are still pending.
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