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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Well, here we are!!!! What event of biblical proportions happened? Powell got fired by Trump? That's an every day occurance.

    ROTLFMFAO!!! Stretch is a moron.
    Not surprising. She has been spouting crazy stuff while presenting no facts to the courts and the certification dates of most states are almost here.

    I think when she included Hugo Chavez in the conspiracy was a good clue.

    Trump likes to win. Micahel Cohen's book described how he hired a computer firm for Trump to buy ISPs to cast phony votes in a CNBC poll to choose the outstanding business person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not, if it were don’t you think the “truth ain’t the truth” Rudi would have taken it to Court by now, all fiction, been debunked and disclaimed in all directions
    Truth is whatever Saint Trump says it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    DID you hear her? BOTH parties have been messing with this Dominion thing for years. No FBI? No Justice Dept.? No interest seemingly
    by ANY pols except a few who I already mentioned. Even Bernie kept his mouth shut. As usual it's about $$$$. Trump is the perfect one
    to get an investigation going. He was never a pol.
    DEEP STATE.
    If both parties have known about the "Dominion thing" for years and Trump is "the perfect one" to get an investigation going, then why didn't he do so when he first took office?

    Why did Trump wait until he LOST an election to cry foul?

    Why is this the VERY FIRST time he's said anything?
    When Trump entered the White House, he had a majority in the Senate and House.

    When he leaves, the Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and House and Trump will be remembered as the President who tried to overthrow the will of the American people.

    Trump has been the worst thing that's happened to the Republican Party and the best thing that's happened to the Democratic Party. Thanks Fat Donald.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Patience grasshopper.
    Any timetable AT ALL as to when we might get shown all this evidence Trump's team claims is out there?
    When Trump entered the White House, he had a majority in the Senate and House.

    When he leaves, the Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and House and Trump will be remembered as the President who tried to overthrow the will of the American people.

    Trump has been the worst thing that's happened to the Republican Party and the best thing that's happened to the Democratic Party. Thanks Fat Donald.


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    FAQ: What happens next in the presidential election process?
    November 6, 2020 by Scott Bomboy


    The 2020 election contest between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden seems headed into overtime, as the presidential vote-counting process continues into Friday. Regardless of which candidate claims victory in the election, the odds are good the election will be contested.

    As of Friday morning, the races in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, and Pennsylvania were still tightly fought - so close, in fact, that their votes could be subject to a recount in the next month. There are also lawsuits in play about a state’s ability to ask for extended mail-in ballot deadlines, and how ballots were counted.

    Here is a brief roadmap to the key deadlines in the presidential election process going forward.

    Elections contested within the states (until December 8)

    Each state has laws that allow a candidate, including a presidential candidate, to ask for an election recount. In some instances, a recount is automatically started based on the margin separating the top two candidates.

    A presidential candidate also can allege voting was conducted or counted in an improper way, and then seek a remedy within the state’s legal system, and in some cases at federal court.

    The popular legal blog Lawfare has a list of these different scenarios, including how disputes, recounts, and elector vacancies will be handled within the current battleground states. For example, Nevada allows a candidate to contest an election on at least six grounds, including cases where “Illegal or improper votes were counted, legal and proper votes were not counted, or some combination of the two.”

    In Wisconsin, the Trump campaign said on Wednesday it may request a recount, which is permitted when a candidate trails the leading candidate by no more than 1 percent of the total votes cast for that office when at least 4,000 votes were cast.” Additional grounds for a recount include claims by a candidate that “a mistake has been made; fraud has been committed; or another specified defect, irregularity or illegality has occurred.”

    A federal law (3 U.S. Code § 5) known as the “safe harbor provision” requires a state to settle these disputes and determine its electors six days before the electoral college members meet in person. In 2020, that deadline is December 8, since the college votes on December 14, 2020

    Elections contested in court (until December 14)

    While in most cases any dispute at a state level must be resolved by December 8, back in 2000 a divided Supreme Court, in a 5-4 vote, ruled on December 12 in Bush v. Gore, after the safe-harbor date for Florida’s election. The court’s ruling settled a controversy over an automatic recount in Florida and it was issued quickly because of the impending December 14 meeting of the electoral college.

    In the current election, according to the Washington Post at least 12 significant presidential-election lawsuits were in federal courts as Election Day started, and another suit was filed on Election Day in suburban Philadelphia about the handling of mail-in ballots. Still more are in the works as of Friday.

    Perhaps the most prominent was the emergency request in Republican Party of Pa, v. Boockvar declined by an equally-divided Supreme Court on October 19 that could be heading back to the nine justices at some point. The Republicans sought to have a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision overturned that allowed for the counting mailed-in ballots received for three days after Election Day in Pennsylvania.

    A separate analysis from USA Today found that 230 election-related lawsuits had been filed this year in federal courts through October 2020.

    The electoral college meets (December 14)

    Of course, the votes for president are actually votes for a slate of electors who cast ballots in the electoral college, a gathering held in the 50 states and the District of Columbia on an appointed day in December after the election.

    During the electoral college meetings on December 14, 2020 another possible controversy could involve a faithless elector who decides to cast his or her vote for a different presidential candidate. Some states can disregard a vote cast by a faithless elector. The Supreme Court’s unanimous July 2020 decision in Chiafolo v. Washington affirmed that state laws penalizing or replacing faithless electors are constitutional.

    However, not all states have such laws on the books. The website FairVote.org tracks the faithless elector laws across America. It says 33 states and the District of Columbia require electoral college members to cast ballots for a pledged candidate. Among the closely contested states in 2020, FairVote says Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are among the states without faithless elector laws.

    The electors’ votes head to Congress (December 23, 2020)

    Federal law requires states to deliver certified electoral college results to the vice president, serving as president of the Senate, and other parties by the fourth Wednesday in December; in the year 2020 that date falls on December 23.

    What happens if a state misses that deadline and it can’t agree on a way to handle a faithless elector? Or there is a dispute over the election winner between the state lawmakers and a governor, for example?

    The federal statute 3 U.S.C. §12, 13 requires the vice president or the Archivist of the United States to compel “secretary of state or equivalent officer” of that state to send the certified election results to Congress, using direct mail or a messenger sent to a federal judge in the state in question, if the judge has the certified election results.

    Congress counts the electoral votes (January 6, 2021)

    Also under federal law, a joint session of Congress is required by the 12th Amendment to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the presidential election. That joint session of Congress is held on January 6, 2021 at 1 p.m.

    When the results from each state are announced, a member of the House and Senate can jointly object, in writing, to the election results from that state. The House and Senate then adjourn for up to one hour to consider the objection; if both bodies agree to uphold the objection, the votes are excluded from the election results under the terms of the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

    There are several scenarios that could allow for this final vote count to be delayed in Congress. One scenario would be if House and Senate agree to exclude a state’s electoral votes, which would then result in a candidate not having the majority of electoral votes. Another would be a faithless elector causing a tie in the electoral college voting.

    The 12th Amendment then calls for run-off or contingent elections in the House (to select a president) and the Senate (to select a vice president). Those elections would need to be finished by 12 p.m. on January 20, 2021 for the next president and vice president to take their oaths of office. If that does not happen, the Speaker of the House would serve as president until Congress certifies a winner of the 2020 presidential election.

    Scott Bomboy is the editor in chief of the National Constitution Center.

    More Resources from the National Constitution

    The Interactive Constitution

    Common Interpretation: The Electoral College

    The 12th Amendment

    Blog Posts

    The 23rd Amendment and the chance of a tied 2020 presidential election

    The Constitution and contested presidential elections

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    Election 2020 in the Courts

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    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    If both parties have known about the "Dominion thing" for years and Trump is "the perfect one" to get an investigation going, then why didn't he do so when he first took office?

    Why did Trump wait until he LOST an election to cry foul?

    Why is this the VERY FIRST time he's said anything?
    He wasn't a pol. Everyone else even going back to Carter knew about the "dominion thing", no one listened to
    him either. Others like Warren and Klobachar knew about it, complained and they got ignored. The swamp has
    ignored it and/or shut down any conversations about it for a long time. Deep state. Some pols from
    both sides tried to get answers but got shut down.
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    The majority of "Scott's" scenarios are either Hail Mary passes or have already been exhausted, when Pennsylvania and Michighan confirm the vote this week it will be all over, not that that will mean anything to Trump, he, and consequently the demagogues, and yourself, will continue to spin lame conspiracies without proof that Trump was robbed

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    "What's happened here is, quite frankly, the conduct of the president's legal team has been a national embarrassment," former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said. "Sidney Powell accusing Gov. Brian Kemp of a crime on television, yet being unwilling to lay out the evidence that she supposedly has. This is outrageous conduct by any lawyer. And notice, they won't do it inside the courtroom. They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom they don't argue fraud."

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-embarrassment

    Ms Powell’s latest claim is that Republican Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia was bribed by Venezuela to install fraudulent election systems in the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Rush Limbaugh knocks Trump's legal team: They promised 'bombshells' at press conference and 'nothing happened"

    'It's not good if you're gonna promise blockbuster stuff like that," Limbaugh told listeners

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...g-happened.amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    He wasn't a pol. Everyone else even going back to Carter knew about the "dominion thing", no one listened to
    him either. Others like Warren and Klobachar knew about it, complained and they got ignored. The swamp has
    ignored it and/or shut down any conversations about it for a long time. Deep state. Some pols from
    both sides tried to get answers but got shut down.
    That still doesn't explain why Trump didn't do/say ANYTHING about the problems at Dominion until he lost an election.

    If you could show me times in the past Trump had spoken up about potential problems at Dominion, then I might take his claims now a bit more seriously.

    Unfortunately, it now just seems like sour grapes from a sore loser.
    When Trump entered the White House, he had a majority in the Senate and House.

    When he leaves, the Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and House and Trump will be remembered as the President who tried to overthrow the will of the American people.

    Trump has been the worst thing that's happened to the Republican Party and the best thing that's happened to the Democratic Party. Thanks Fat Donald.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    That still doesn't explain why Trump didn't do/say ANYTHING about the problems at Dominion until he lost an election.

    If you could show me times in the past Trump had spoken up about potential problems at Dominion, then I might take his claims now a bit more seriously.

    Unfortunately, it now just seems like sour grapes from a sore loser.
    How many non-pols in here knew about and cared about the Dominion machines for the last 10 years or so?
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    I have actually but that has more to do with cost of living and schools. (I’m speaking about SF and Oakland but I’m guessing what’s happening here is the same in most major cities.). I learned long ago that the incompetence of the local government isn’t going to change so you just live with it. I used to have hope people would get so fed up we’d elect a Guiliani type Mayor to clean things up but not anymore.

    For me when you’ve lived in one place for so long and have your family and work/social network here it makes it hard to leave (and it really is beautiful and an amazing place when you’re not dealing with incompetent government and homeless/mentally ill threatening you everywhere you go.)
    Upstate NY is a beautiful and amazing place, and I left behind many good friends. After leaving 23 years I wouldn't dream of moving back to it.

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    Federal judges in Georgia and Michigan eviscerated 2 of Sidney Powell's 'Kraken' lawsuits in one morning

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...-2020-12%3famp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Evidently some of these kids in here never heard of the euphemism "of Biblical proportions".
    More modern lingo might be "larger than life" or "going postal" when it comes to what's coming down in GA.
    Lol, another dud of Biblical proportions.

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