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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you haven't a clue about merit based immigration reform, but no one claimed high tech illegals. I mentioned carpenters, also service technicians etc.
    Those are low skilled jobs that take away from our low skilled American labor force
    Why do you post such blatant lies, comrade dookie? Don't you realize that most people are not as stupid as you believe them to be? Just because your little circle of sock puppets and dumbasses agree with you or because sane, intelligent people don't confront your posts isn't proof your lies and delusional perceptions are the truth. It's the opposite.

    Dude, are you seriously resting your entire argument on the fact that illegals are taking jobs away from ditch diggers, burger-flippers and toilet cleaners? There's only three types of people who take those jobs: teenagers, losers and illegals. Which one are you, comrade?

    Are you religious? Would you be willing to swear to God that you've never directly benefited from the labor of an illegal immigrant? Ever? .....or do you really live in Mother Russia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post

    Dude, are you seriously resting your entire argument on the fact that illegals are taking jobs away from ditch diggers, burger-flippers and toilet cleaners? There's only three types of people who take those jobs: teenagers, losers and illegals.
    no you fucking idiot. carpenters, service technicians, retail -the list goes on.
    Damn you are one stupid CARP -done with your moronic utterance s here

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no you fucking idiot. carpenters, service technicians, retail -the list goes on.
    Damn you are one stupid CARP -done with your moronic utterance s here
    Comrade dookie, only a fucking moron believes Mexican service technicians are taking $30/hour jobs away from Americans.

    BTW, your hero supports illegal immigration and most certainly recognizes "the Wall" is smoke and mirrors AKA bullshit.

    To be clear, TrumpCorp isn't alone in benefiting from illegal immigration. They're all doing it. It's why neither the Democrats or Republicans only make noises about solving the problem but prefer the status quo. If Congress actually fixed this problem, they'd see their corporate campaign donors pull away.

    https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/
    For 36 years, Trump has denied knowingly using undocumented workers to demolish the building that would be replaced with Trump Tower in 1980. After Senator Marco Rubio raised the issue of undocumented Polish workers during a Republican primary debate this year, Trump described himself as removed from the problem. “I hire a contractor. The contractor then hires the subcontractor,” he said. “They have people. I don’t know. I don’t remember, that was so many years ago, 35 years ago.”


    https://americasvoice.org/press_rele...s-than-he-did/
    Trump’s Own Undocumented Workers Paid More in Taxes Than He Did


    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...mented-workers
    REPORT: TRUMP HAPPILY EMPLOYING UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS WHILE ICE ROUNDS THEM UP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Comrade dookie, only a fucking moron believes Mexican service technicians are taking $30/hour jobs away from Americans.

    BTW, your hero supports illegal immigration and most certainly recognizes "the Wall" is smoke and mirrors AKA bullshit.

    To be clear, TrumpCorp isn't alone in benefiting from illegal immigration. They're all doing it. It's why neither the Democrats or Republicans only make noises about solving the problem but prefer the status quo. If Congress actually fixed this problem, they'd see their corporate campaign donors pull away.

    https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/
    For 36 years, Trump has denied knowingly using undocumented workers to demolish the building that would be replaced with Trump Tower in 1980. After Senator Marco Rubio raised the issue of undocumented Polish workers during a Republican primary debate this year, Trump described himself as removed from the problem. “I hire a contractor. The contractor then hires the subcontractor,” he said. “They have people. I don’t know. I don’t remember, that was so many years ago, 35 years ago.”


    https://americasvoice.org/press_rele...s-than-he-did/
    Trump’s Own Undocumented Workers Paid More in Taxes Than He Did


    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...mented-workers
    REPORT: TRUMP HAPPILY EMPLOYING UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS WHILE ICE ROUNDS THEM UP
    trash. noone is saying $30/ hr -but $15 is surely happening -carpenters more.

    The wall stops illegal from crossing in isolated areas -if you had a brain you'd do some research and see what happened before REMAIN -agents chasing them down in ATVs and then putting them in facilities where they have to get released due to overcrowding

    STFU. do the research, and quit CARPING about shit ye know not of

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    trash. noone is saying $30/ hr -but $15 is surely happening -carpenters more.

    The wall stops illegal from crossing in isolated areas -if you had a brain you'd do some research and see what happened before REMAIN -agents chasing them down in ATVs and then putting them in facilities where they have to get released due to overcrowding

    STFU. do the research, and quit CARPING about shit ye know not of
    Comrade dookie, scream all you like. Every intelligent adult knows you are serving as Putin's cock holster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    OK now I see what you mean -yes Ryan was a retard more enamored of good press then getting an agenda done.
    After that Pelosi went into obstruction mode and here we sit while Biden deconstructs REMAIN
    Bet on more caravans in your future
    You are giving pelosi cred for stopping trump, senate & house...............lol

    The gop had little interest, obviously, in taking on the trump agenda other than stacking the courts........

    They are still not interested in taking it on, & neither is the other party..........

    I look for the dems to now pivot away from the open doors & back to a more realistic approach aka do nothing
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no, individual cases are manifestations of using the law.
    The important thing is to change the law so there will be no more such "cases"
    the gop did not do that
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    sure that's gonna happen..lol
    ICE does go after some large employers like chicken processing plants - but the average small business? no
    Show.......... Small costs of doing business.....

    You put noel white in parchman prison in mississippi for 30 days things will change real fuckin quick.......

    The problem is not them-it's us......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    the guy got stuck. have you ever climbed a 30 foot ladder?
    I did some housepainting with my uncles business back when I was young and had to climb one.
    It's really disconcerting. And I was a young man -how about women and kids? think they could do it?

    and how do you get down the other side?? lol
    I have, doing house painting as well............ It is ok, once you get use to it, & don't look down........lol

    As Dutch posted (w/ pictures) there are countless ways over/under a wall- BCE high tech.......

    I guess the days of high walls were #ed after some man in Mongolia invented the shovel, which some didn't believe it, but hey, I digress,,,,,,,,,,,
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Fake crisis..
    Kinda reminds me of the trump battle against cheating, something he is intimately familiar w/.......

    While it just adds to more loses for his brand, it certainly bodes well for keeping his fan base loyal.....

    Be patriotic & buy only trump brands, some actually "packaged" now in America
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I have, doing house painting as well............ It is ok, once you get use to it, & don't look down........lol

    As Dutch posted (w/ pictures) there are countless ways over/under a wall- BCE high tech.......

    I guess the days of high walls were #ed after some man in Mongolia invented the shovel, which some didn't believe it, but hey, I digress,,,,,,,,,,,
    how do you carry a 30 foot ladder ? not very far -and not by women and kids
    CARP is an idiot - do you think illegals that come up with coyotes and caravans use "high tech"

    what you could do is LOOK AT THE RESULTS where the 'Trump wall is in place" -guess what is not happening
    You could also look at current walls/ fences that are being built worldwide for examples where the work

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    two years ago, I listed the growing number of countries which have come to embrace walls or fences along their borders in order to deter illegal immigration or to secure their borders from terrorism. The list then was already long: Algeria, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Greece, Hungary, India, Israel, Morocco, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Syria, Turkey, and Yemen.

    Consider first buildings like the White House, where a decorative fence predated the wrought iron fence installed by President Ulysses Grant to control New Year’s crowds. President Franklin Roosevelt began restricting access to White House grounds to appointment-holders only during World War II as a further security measure. But the White House is a building and different than a national border, even if the logic remains the same. Is there a precedent with border walls working along much longer distances?

    Here, again, the answer is yes. Consider the following:
    Jerusalem might have developed that technology for Israel’s own security, but it could just as easily be replicated to detect, interdict, and destroy tunnels under the US border.
    Israel-West Bank: The border wall — actually much more a security fence — was constructed in the wake of the 2001-2002 terror campaign in Israel. Almost immediately, the number of successful terror attacks in the Jewish state dropped by 90 percent. Indeed, it is Israel to which the Trump administration and wall proponents might turn to resolve one of the main arguments about duplicating the system along the US-Mexican border. After all, Israel has developed anti-tunnel radar and other technology to stymie Hamas (and Hezbollah) terrorist who might try to tunnel. Jerusalem might have developed that technology for Israel’s own security, but it could just as easily


    Morocco-Algeria: Morocco fought a bloody insurgency and terrorist campaign sponsored by Algeria’s and Cuba’s Cold War proxy, the Polisario Front. The Polisario became ineffective, however, after Morocco built its famous 1,700-mile system of sand berms, fences, mine fields, and ditches.

    Cyprus: It was the United Nations which built a wall dividing Cyprus between the northern Turkish portion and the remaining Greek section after Turkey invaded and occupied parts of the island nation in 1974. To cite international law as opposed to walls is, therefore, nonsense since the United Nations created the precedent.

    India-Pakistan: India and Pakistan fought wars in 1947, 1965, 1971, and 1999, that collectively killed millions of people. The two sides have had a more than three decade-long standoff on the Siachen glacier and several skirmishes elsewhere along the disputed border. Because Pakistani terror groups regularly try to infiltrate and wreak havoc in India, India constructed a border fence and wall system to keep Pakistanis out. That’s a good thing, because nowhere else in the world could a simple border incident so quickly escalate into nuclear war.

    Turkey-Syria: Throughout the 1990s, Turkey faced an escalating challenge from the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), a group leading a Kurdish insurgency against the Turkish Army. Indeed, Syria only seriously cracked down on the PKK when Turkey credibly threatened war. Turkey subsequently reinforced the border with fences, mine fields, and no-man’s land, and it worked. The next 15 years was largely quiet. It was only when Turkey’s leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan removed many of the defenses and turned a blind eye to border security that the terrorism problem in Syria — and its subsequent blowback inside Turkey itself — grew so great.

    There are other walls out there, of course: Saudi Arabia has just built a wall along its disputed border with Yemen to keep Yemeni-based terrorists out of the Saudi Kingdom. India has a long-standing border fence with Bangladesh to prevent illegal immigration. Hungary is building a fence to protect its borders. Greece maintains a heavily protected border with Turkey. Spain fortifies its enclaves in Africa. Algeria has a berm with Libya to stop terrorists

    Simply put, if the goal is to protect national security and curtail illegal immigration, the record is clear: walls work.

    Since my last compilation, the list has only grown. Iraq has now built a fence along its border with Syria, and France has also joined the club, specifically to control illegal immigration. Lithuania has built a barrier along one of its borders with Russia. Estonia, too, is joining the club. Norway, too, has built a border barrier along its frontier with Russia in order to stem illegal immigration. Part of this is motivated by fear of Russia but, especially in the case of Norway, controlling illegal immigration is also a factor.
    https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defe...-work-part-ii/

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    Facts are inconveniences to be ignored by rightys. Trump admin lied about the immigrants not showing up to courts. https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/res...court-hearings They show up at greater than 90 percent levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I am just trying to get down to the DNA of Trumtardism- What makes it tick?

    Because the way I see it, Trumptardism is nothing more than White Supremacy, White Nationalism, Autocracy, Plutocracy, Class Warfare, and Xenophobia!.
    You forgot misogyny but yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    same TDS lies from you. why did Trump want to build a wall then?

    and no illegals aren't indentured - many dont just work in fields or as nannies.
    They've pretty much taken over carpenters down here ex.
    Red meat for stupid kunts like you, fool.
    Now shut the fuck up, idiot.
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