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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    It's because COVID is a respiratory illness. It is expected that many victims will experience permanent or long-term respiratory problems.
    Try watching the link provide. The experts don't agree with you.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    News flash, socialism is militant.
    Bull shit.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    actually we were discussing Hitler......but I seem to recall O'biden and his crew taking over a huuuge chunk of the American health insurance system........surely you recall us reminding you about socialism there.......and in the energy sector, O'biden eliminated the coal industry and now has his eyes on the rest of the fossil fuels.......

    More lies from the mindless minion of the right. The ACA did not control the means of production. The coal industry has lost in accordance with the advances in technology, and fracking. And restricting the number of oil drilling on Federal land does not control the means of production.

    Don't really give a shit about warnings from fools who don't know truth from a lie, and are more then willing to accept the lie, and deny the truth.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    That a strain of SARS-CoV-2 is a respiratory illness?
    LOL, now you want to change your tune? How many strains are there?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    LOL, now you want to change your tune? How many strains are there?
    That's why I find it weird that they keep referring to it with the SARS nomenclature instead of just saying COVID-19. I had a test on Saturday, which is mostly why it comes to mind right now. But, yeah, it is a respiratory illness, regardless of whether you call it COVID, SARS, or Coronavirus (or Kung Flu, Wu Flu, China Virus, etc).

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    There were 14 deaths yesterday in Sweden, compare that to these countries:


    Mexico 813
    Italy 722
    UK 696
    Poland 674
    Russia 507
    Germany 416
    Canada 92
    Denmark 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    LOL, now you want to change your tune? How many strains are there?
    At least six at last count! Want to argue about that as well?

    https://phys.org/news/2020-08-strains-sars-cov-.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
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    There were 14 deaths yesterday in Sweden, compare that to these countries:


    Mexico 813
    Italy 722
    UK 696
    Poland 674
    Russia 507
    Germany 416
    Canada 92
    Denmark 5
    This chart shows it as 67, however, the point is it is rising, and the lack of a lockdown policy is why.

    https://www.coronatracker.com/country/sweden/

    At least six at last count! Want to argue about that as well?
    More right wing wing arrogance, and ignorance. I have read where it could be as high as 1000, but butt heads like you seem to want to be in the forefront of being stupid.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    This chart shows it as 67, however, the point is it is rising, and the lack of a lockdown policy is why.

    https://www.coronatracker.com/country/sweden/.
    Where is it not rising? BTW that link doesn't work, at least on my old iPad.

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    Just spoke with my daughter who lives in Germany yesterday. Was sick, fluey , had to stay home and wasn't allowed a test. What's going on with that?
    I can get a test anytime I want here. Had at least six that I can remember. Wife even got two on the same day. All paid for.
    Daughter says it's really hard to get tested there. Still cases spiking lockdowns are stricter . Germans rat on each other, always have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Where is it not rising? BTW that link doesn't work, at least on my old iPad.
    Link works for me.

    Now, please try to understand regardless of your intellectual disabilities. The point is not that it is rising, and it is rising more rapidly in Sweden then other countries. The point is that open societies instead of lock downs failed. Sweden tried to have it both ways, and it failed.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Just spoke with my daughter who lives in Germany yesterday. Was sick, fluey , had to stay home and wasn't allowed a test. What's going on with that?
    I can get a test anytime I want here. Had at least six that I can remember. Wife even got two on the same day. All paid for.
    Daughter says it's really hard to get tested there. Still cases spiking lockdowns are stricter . Germans rat on each other, always have.
    They actually did a pretty good job of saving many Jews in WW2, and keeping their mouths shut.

    As to testing, they changed the rules:

    "To conceal the true extent of the infection, Federal Health Minister Jens Spahn (Christian Democratic Union, CDU) has presented a “new coronavirus strategy.” Accordingly, only those who have symptoms, belong to a risk group or work in the nursing and health care sector, for example, should be tested. “And someone who has no symptoms and is otherwise a contact person does not need to be tested,” Spahn told the ARD programme “Report from Berlin” on Sunday evening.

    This attitude is criminal. It has been proven that even without acute symptoms, serious health consequences can occur because of an infection, which is why a credible collection of data is essential for pandemic control. Since the spring, it has been known that laboratory testing capacities would not be adequate if the number of infections rose higher. Nevertheless, nothing has been done about it. Now, the government is using this circumstance to push the figures downward in its calculations.

    Even in old people’s homes and nursing homes, which have been severely affected since the beginning of the pandemic and where outbreaks usually have fatal consequences, there is insufficient testing. Rapid coronavirus tests are to be used in the facilities to relieve the burden on laboratories. “Staff shortages and sometimes long delivery times make implementation difficult,” however, as the television network WDR reports. In North Rhine-Westphalia alone, a thousand residents and just as many nursing staff in old people’s and nursing homes have become infected with the pathogen."

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../scho-n12.html
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    They actually did a pretty good job of saving many Jews in WW2, and keeping their mouths shut.

    As to testing, they changed the rules:

    "To conceal the true extent of the infection, Federal Health Minister Jens Spahn (Christian Democratic Union, CDU) has presented a “new coronavirus strategy.” Accordingly, only those who have symptoms, belong to a risk group or work in the nursing and health care sector, for example, should be tested. “And someone who has no symptoms and is otherwise a contact person does not need to be tested,” Spahn told the ARD programme “Report from Berlin” on Sunday evening.

    This attitude is criminal. It has been proven that even without acute symptoms, serious health consequences can occur because of an infection, which is why a credible collection of data is essential for pandemic control. Since the spring, it has been known that laboratory testing capacities would not be adequate if the number of infections rose higher. Nevertheless, nothing has been done about it. Now, the government is using this circumstance to push the figures downward in its calculations.

    Even in old people’s homes and nursing homes, which have been severely affected since the beginning of the pandemic and where outbreaks usually have fatal consequences, there is insufficient testing. Rapid coronavirus tests are to be used in the facilities to relieve the burden on laboratories. “Staff shortages and sometimes long delivery times make implementation difficult,” however, as the television network WDR reports. In North Rhine-Westphalia alone, a thousand residents and just as many nursing staff in old people’s and nursing homes have become infected with the pathogen."

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../scho-n12.html
    To conceal the true extent of the infection
    What I thought when I heard what my daughter told me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    This chart shows it as 67, however, the point is it is rising, and the lack of a lockdown policy is why.

    https://www.coronatracker.com/country/sweden/



    More right wing wing arrogance, and ignorance. I have read where it could be as high as 1000, but butt heads like you seem to want to be in the forefront of being stupid.
    You're an exceeedingly stupid individual, even when presented with top tier evidence you still try to bullshit your way out of it.

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