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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    We never should have wasted Jan/Feb/most of March doing almost nothing when it was clear that a global pandemic was almost certainly at hand (I know so because I was saying so at the time)..
    I find this argument really bizarre given everything else you wrote in this post which was tantamount to doing nothing.

    Trump was warned about this in 2019.

    He didn't take any action on it because he didn't care and he's lazy.

    All we needed to do was pay people to stay home for six weeks, and we could all be travelling for Thanksgiving today. But y'all didn't want to do that, and I still don't understand why.

    OR, we could have removed Trump in February when he was impeached, and at least put someone in there who would listen to the scientists and experts. But y'all didn't want to do that, and I still don't understand why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    I wish you cungts could talking something other than 40 year old regurgitated talking points. The govt be a spending problem not lack of revenue problem. Do you have any idea what impact taxation he on an economy? Any????
    We definitely have a revenue problem because tax cuts cut revenue, like the 2018 tax cut did; like the Brownback tax cuts in Kansas did in the 2010's; like the Bush Tax Cuts did in the 2000's

    Tax cuts have never, ever worked as promised. You do not end up with more money in your pocket...instead, you end up with less personal savings and more household debt.

    Revenue doesn't increase, wages don't get higher, economic activity doesn't pick up, deficits only grow larger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Taxation is used as a weapon by the cunt party to destroy business. They want everyone depending on Uncle Sam soon to be known as comdrade sam if the lying racist groping imbecile Joe and his kamal cunt take over.
    Love it when you rabid right wingers show just what kind of dogs you really are, and the depths of your ignorance. Look butt wipe, taxation is written into the Constitution, and that was long before there was a Democratic Party. Live with it, or get the f**k out.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Love it when you rabid right wingers show just what kind of dogs you really are, and the depths of your ignorance. Look butt wipe, taxation is written into the Constitution, and that was long before there was a Democratic Party. Live with it, or get the f**k out.
    Look you fucking piss stained cunt I never said there shouldn't be taxation. Copy and paste where I said that. This why you fucking cunts aren't worth pissing on if you were on fire. I'd get the fucking lighter fluid. You stupid fucking retard. That's a insult to retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Look you fucking piss stained cunt I never said there shouldn't be taxation. Copy and paste where I said that. This why you fucking cunts aren't worth pissing on if you were on fire. I'd get the fucking lighter fluid. You stupid fucking retard. That's a insult to retards.
    Right here you ignorant piece of shit:

    "Taxation is used as a weapon by the cunt party to destroy business."

    Here is another of your more "intelligent" responses:

    "Do you have any idea what impact taxation he on an economy? Any????"

    But tell us pig f**ker, what is the alternative considering how evil you believe taxation to be?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Right here you ignorant piece of shit:

    "Taxation is used as a weapon by the cunt party to destroy business."

    Here is another of your more "intelligent" responses:

    "Do you have any idea what impact taxation he on an economy? Any????"

    But tell us pig f**ker, what is the alternative considering how evil you believe taxation to be?
    Attacking the concept of taxation is an easy way for boring people to posture relevancy in a debate about government.

    It's so juvenile and boring, not to mention completely counterproductive. It's a distraction. It's also dogma that has been rampant among Conservatives the last 40 years, and has its genesis in the thoughts of a fucking fourteen year old Grover Norquist.

    Seriously, Grover Norquist's development was arrested at age 14. He's a pubescent boy in a man's rotund body.

    I can't fathom being so proud of something you came up with when you were 14 years old. What a fucking joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    "Do you have any idea what impact taxation he on an economy? Any????"
    Yes, I do. Fortunately, we have decades of data we can look at.

    Looking at the past 20 years, every single time income taxes have been cut, deficits appear, economic growth SLOWS, job growth slows, household debt increases, personal savings decreases, and a recession takes all the stupid people by surprise.

    Like clockwork...

    Bush Tax Cuts in 2001 and 2003 caused the 2008 economic collapse and 2009 recession.

    Brownback Tax Cuts in Kansas in 2012 resulted in record deficits, a raiding of the Highway Fund, economic growth slower than the national average, and were eventually repealed in 2018 by the same people who put them in place 6 years earlier.

    The Russia Tax Cut of 2018 has been an unmitigated disaster; revenue declined, deficits expanded, economic growth was worse than it was during Obama, the DJIA has grown at its slowest pace since the last Conservative recession, manufacturing entered a recession in 2019, and no one got the $4,000-$9,000 wage increase that was promised. Well, not everyone...the rich did great...their income grew way faster than everyone else's. Had it not been for 20+ states raising their minimum wages, only the top 1% would have seen income gains.

    Conservatism fails. Every. Single. Time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Hitler was not a socialist, and Mussolini while raised a socialist, was too militant for the claim, and no matter how often you repeat the lie it does not make it true. It only makes you a liar, and an ignorant one at that.
    it's okay you don't know your history.......it's just part of a long list of things you don't know.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    it's okay you don't know your history.......it's just part of a long list of things you don't know.....
    Stupid people like you get awfully boring in a short time since all you can do is whine about how other people know nothing while never proving you do, or them to be wrong. But hey, you can always brag about how your shoe size matches your IQ.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Stupid people like you get awfully boring in a short time since all you can do is whine about how other people know nothing while never proving you do, or them to be wrong. But hey, you can always brag about how your shoe size matches your IQ.
    how is government control of the means of production not socialism?.........you lib'rul fucks seem to think socialism simply means having a concern about the social welfare of the public........
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    how is government control of the means of production not socialism?.........you lib'rul fucks seem to think socialism simply means having a concern about the social welfare of the public........
    No dumb f**k with the split mentality, I pointed out how corporatism is a form of socialism. But tell me oh one with the IQ of a pair of shoes, where does the government control the means of production in the US?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    No dumb f**k with the split mentality, I pointed out how corporatism is a form of socialism. But tell me oh one with the IQ of a pair of shoes, where does the government control the means of production in the US?
    actually we were discussing Hitler......but I seem to recall O'biden and his crew taking over a huuuge chunk of the American health insurance system........surely you recall us reminding you about socialism there.......and in the energy sector, O'biden eliminated the coal industry and now has his eyes on the rest of the fossil fuels.......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    And you know this how?

    "Long haulers: Why some people experience long-term coronavirus symptoms
    Updated Oct. 29, 2020

    Novel coronavirus symptoms can last weeks or months for some people. These patients, given the name "long haulers", have in theory recovered from the worst impacts of COVID-19 and have tested negative. However, they still have symptoms. There seems to be no consistent reason for this to happen.

    Researchers estimate about 10% of COVID-19 patients become long haulers, according to a recent article from The Journal of the American Medical Association and a study done by British scientists. That’s in line with what UC Davis Health is seeing.

    This condition can effect anyone – old and young, otherwise healthy people and those battling other conditions. It has been seen in those who were hospitalized with COVID-19 and patients with very mild symptoms."

    https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavir...g-haulers.html
    It's because COVID is a respiratory illness. It is expected that many victims will experience permanent or long-term respiratory problems.

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