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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    You'd not even heard of Worldometers ffs, just how stupid is that? Any credibility you had, which wasn't much to be honest, just evaporated. You can piss and moan all you like it will do you no good.
    Why would I worry about a bunch of ignorant asses like you, and what you think of me? Unlike you I have a real life to go to, and am not dependent on some letters posted on a screen.

    Point is I upset your little fantasy, and you have yet to prove anything I have said to b wrong. Even your "source" failed to do so. You are a punk ass cowardly loser just like your gawd trump. Live with it. You have no other choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    The fact that we now have 95% effective vaccines developed suggests that Sweden held on long enough. Even if they get timid this late in the outbreak.
    And who says the vaccine will actually work, and how are they going to get enough to supply the whole world? Even the experts here in the States say they cannot move enough to supply our own. And you still have over a month to wait while 1500 die each day.

    https://apnews.com/article/hospitals...c13408455cd895

    https://www.cbsnews.com/60-minutes/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    This is what the right wing wants for America, and especially here in Oregon. Their actions failed (like everything they touch) in Sweden, and they will here too:

    "Stefan Lofven, the Swedish prime minister, looked shaken as he addressed his nation Monday, announcing some of the kinds of restrictions Sweden had specifically avoided earlier in this pandemic year. Gatherings will be limited to eight people or less. Bars can’t serve alcohol after 10 p.m.

    Calling it a “new normal” and warning that things will get worse, Lofven said, “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future. Don’t go to the gym, don’t go to the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties — cancel!”

    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2020...lofven-vaccine
    I don't think you have a clue what the right wing wants for America or the left wing either .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    What did Sweden fail at?
    they went socialist......
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    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    People who actually understand the science and the data.
    Then why the hurry? 2 Months to watch for symptoms that something is wrong? Right now it is r=taking up to 8 months just for more symptoms of the virus to appear.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    they went socialist......
    Socialist countries are doing far better then we are. And keepiing everything open is a right wing "capitalist" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    This is what the right wing wants for America, and especially here in Oregon. Their actions failed (like everything they touch) in Sweden, and they will here too:

    "Stefan Lofven, the Swedish prime minister, looked shaken as he addressed his nation Monday, announcing some of the kinds of restrictions Sweden had specifically avoided earlier in this pandemic year. Gatherings will be limited to eight people or less. Bars can’t serve alcohol after 10 p.m.

    Calling it a “new normal” and warning that things will get worse, Lofven said, “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future. Don’t go to the gym, don’t go to the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties — cancel!”

    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2020...lofven-vaccine
    Anyone, including you, that wants lockdowns or other things because you're scared have already failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    I don't think you have a clue what the right wing wants for America or the left wing either .
    Well, I would say that their words, and actions, tell one what they want. Perhaps you should shut up, and watch and listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Sweden had 12 deaths yesterday whilst Italy had 699, France 634 and Poland 626, Old Crapper fails again! Oh and Denmark had 5!
    According to the data notes, Sweden deaths are often delayed by more than 10 days so 6 deaths on a day may turn into 40 as more data comes in.

    This means that for the last 10 days of data, death counts in Sweden must only be interpreted as incomplete measures of mortality.

    ...

    Sweden is the only country for which the European CDC currently applies this method for the reporting of deaths.


    This means any attempt to compare yesterday's numbers for Sweden to any other European country would be invalid since they are using different measures to count deaths per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    You make a claim you prove it bitch.

    Now, look at Swedens numbers if you dare. According to the article it is 57.3 per 100,000. According to your "source" it is 633 per ONE MILLION. Not much difference, and my source is lower then yours dumb ass.

    37. Sweden 208,295 6,406 N/A N/A 182 20,574 633 2,914,088 287,835 10,124,145

    Then lets look at the US, NUMBER 1. 60.7 my source. Your source is higher again at 792 per ONE MILLION.

    1 USA 12,585,992 +133,958 262,693 +863 7,451,495 4,871,804 23,113 37,936 792 180,672,356 544,571 331,769,810

    But hey dick wipe, it can't be that bad, or can it.

    But, that is not bad enough for your kind of fool. You want more to die, and then your sorry asses will blame it on the left never taking responsibility for your actions, or those of trump.

    SWEDEN PROVES THAT SHUT DOWNS WORK, AND NO CLOSURES ONLY INCREASES THE DEATH COUNT.
    Already had basically this same arguement with Concart.
    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    This is really getting stupid. You can compare Sweden to three other countries or to Europe or to the Eastern Hemisphere or to the world and come up with all kinds of comparisons. You can then multiply that by deaths / cases, deaths/pop, cases/pop. The comparisons are almost endless (total deaths, total deaths/pop, new deaths, new cases, new cases / pop, etc. )and you come up with whatever you want.
    Then you can come up with whatever conclusion you want, e.g., LV47563xyz seemingly concludes Sweden, UK and Italy have the crappiest health care systems in Europe. Then there's differences in how different countries report cases.
    If you're honest with yourself you'd admit it's pretty random as to how this virus affects different countries, and Sweden overall is doing no better or worse than the rest of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    And to be honest I don't really care. Never been to Sweden and don't plan on going anytime soon. Looks like we may have to cancel our mid December trip to Germany though. Not worth going anyway with the Christmas markets cancelled as far as I'm concerned. Just entertaining myself fucking with LV4267972.xyz.
    As long as I can go to Hawaii from Jan. - April I'm fine.
    I will say this... the MatSu borough (we have no counties) is very lax and has been since early summer . I went there to golf , then eat at my favorite brewhouse this past summer. No distancing at the bars, even the waiters weren't masking and they've had 53% the cases/100,000 and 8.3% of deaths/100,000 compared to the Anchorage
    borough https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...p/state/alaska which had an authoritarian mayor before he got caught Anthony Weinering himself and resigned.
    However I do find it telling how earlier in the thread you have a hard time believing a source then you turn around later in the thread to cite the very same source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Already had basically this same arguement with Concart.



    Then:


    However I do find it telling how earlier in the thread you have a hard time believing a source then you turn around later in the thread to cite the very same source.
    You were the one having a problem with a source. But hey, what ever floats your boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    This is what the right wing wants for America, and especially here in Oregon. Their actions failed (like everything they touch) in Sweden, and they will here too:
    Since when did Sweden become "right wing" you low IQ dunce?

    Nothing says moron better than a leftist dunce blaming a china virus on Trump. Nothing says stupid better than a leftist dunce believing society can hide from a virus.

    Try to be less stupid and dishonest.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Sweden had 12 deaths yesterday whilst Italy had 699, France 634 and Poland 626, Old Crapper fails again! Oh and Denmark had 5!
    Indeed!

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