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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You want genocide? How do you eliminate people you don't like?
    We don't need genocide.
    We need partition.
    Cczechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, and Yugoslavia all had to do it.
    Now we have to do it as well.

    Incompatible people can't try to share the same borders and government.
    That just gives you the hot mess we have now.

    Unity is a psychotic pipe dream.
    If that's the plan, don't look for peace in North America in the lifetime of anybody born now.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    We don't need genocide.
    We need partition.
    Cczechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, and Yugoslavia all had to do it.
    Now we have to do it as well.

    Incompatible people can't try to share the same borders and government.
    That just gives you the hot mess we have now.

    Unity is a psychotic pipe dream.
    If that's the plan, don't look for peace in North America in the lifetime of anybody born now.

    Weird idea. Build a wall? really?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Weird idea. Build a wall? really?!
    Why would Red and Blue Americas need walls?
    If we're not deciding one another's laws and tax codes, what's the argument?
    People can go where they fit in.
    They're not constrained by walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Why would Red and Blue Americas need walls?
    If we're not deciding one another's laws and tax codes, what's the argument?
    People can go where they fit in.
    They're not constrained by walls.

    Not sure what your plan is. You don't like red states. But what is your plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Not sure what your plan is. You don't like red states. But what is your plan?
    Simple. The Northeast and the West Coast have all the money.
    They simple call a new constitutional convention inviting just the states that they want to participate.
    The right wing rural states can either change their way of thinking and come along...
    or they can make it on their own without blue state tax money.
    We're willing to pay high taxes to be civilized, after all.
    They're not.
    They perceive themselves as ":rugged individualists" while being kept afloat by donor [Blue] state tax dollars.

    Radical problems have NO moderate solutions.
    It's time for a radical solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Simple. The Northeast and the West Coast have all the money.
    They simple call a new constitutional convention inviting just the states that they want to participate.
    The right wing rural states can either change their way of thinking and come along...
    or they can make it on their own without blue state tax money.
    We're willing to pay high taxes to be civilized, after all.
    They're not.
    They perceive themselves as ":rugged individualists" while being kept afloat by donor [Blue] state tax dollars.

    Radical problems have NO moderate solutions.
    It's time for a radical solution.
    Ok, count me out for a civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Ok, count me out for a civil war.
    I called for partition, not civil war.
    It only has to be a war if the Red states want one.
    They lost pretty badly the last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    sure
    YEAH, LIKE AN ADM. THAT ILLEGALLY SPIES ON ITS POLITICAL OPPONENT, THEN STARTS A SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY BASED ON THEIR OWN LIES.....WITH FULL MEDIA COOPERATION.

    #RUSSIA!RUSSIA!


    HAVE ONE OF THE GROWNUPS EXPLAIN ORWELL TO YOU, STARTING WITH "ANIMAL FARM"....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


    De Oppresso Liber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    HAVE ONE OF THE GROWNUPS EXPLAIN ORWELL TO YOU, STARTING WITH "ANIMAL FARM"....
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism."

    Why I Write, essay by George Orwell.

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    Better Question: Can American democracy survive the complete failure of nearly the entire Elite Class and with the entire Baby Boomer Generation as well?

    It looks very iffy.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    ORWELL WAS WARNING US AGAINST LEFTISM, YOU FUCKING TWIT, NOT POPULISM..
    He was warning us in part against small, rigid minds like your own that rely on aggressive insult instead of reason but mainly he was arguing against extreme populism whether clothed in Leftist ideology or Rightist ideology, doesn't matter which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    He was warning us in part against small, rigid minds like your own that rely on aggressive insult instead of reason but mainly he was arguing against extreme populism whether clothed in Leftist ideology or Rightist ideology, doesn't matter which.
    There is no populism in a society where the souls are captured moron/liar.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    There is no populism in a society where the souls are captured moron/liar.
    Thank you for that mishmash. I don't know what "souls are captured" means in practical terms, and probably neither do you, but a society where all members fit the description
    would fit the description of "populist".

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    Can American democracy survive Donald Trump?

    It's going to take a sense of humor;

    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "American democracy is facing not merely a crisis in trust, but in knowledge itself, largely because language has become increasingly untethered from reality, as we find ourselves in a swirling maelstrom of lies, disinformation, paranoia and conspiracy theories."

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...e-donald-trump

    America will survive. We have long suffered racism and intolerance but they are slowly fading. The history has always been 2 steps forward and one step back. We are doing a one step back with asg.

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