Earl (11-22-2020)
He said he could make a better deal, but he has failed to even get any talks started.
He doesn't know how to negotiate.
All he knows how to do is look for some kind of leverage and flex it.
In this case, all he did was impose sanctions and then offer to lift them if Iran talks.
They have said no way, lift the sanctions first, we had a deal, you reneged.
"“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”"
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He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.
To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.
“They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."
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"Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place."
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"Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”"
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"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is generally believed to be in the camp that wants a deal, but he’s also laid out a set of 12 conditions on Iran that are so broad they may be damaging the odds of talks. A third U.S. official who confirmed the outlines of the internal debate said Pompeo may be worried about his future in the Republican Party and whether engaging in any sort of negotiation with Iran could damage it."
Trump’s "better deal" with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
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Earl (11-22-2020)
christiefan915 (11-25-2020), moon (11-21-2020), Phantasmal (11-20-2020), Taichiliberal (11-20-2020)
trump promised a better deal... Just one more promise not kept.
moon (11-21-2020), Phantasmal (11-20-2020)
Trump has 2 months to start a War with Iran, so lets not count our chickens yet.
moon (11-21-2020), PoliTalker (11-20-2020), Taichiliberal (11-20-2020)
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Earl (11-22-2020)
Last edited by PoliTalker; 11-20-2020 at 08:19 PM. Reason: fixed typo: 'his' was 'is'
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Earl (11-22-2020)
moon (11-21-2020), PoliTalker (11-20-2020), Taichiliberal (11-20-2020)
christiefan915 (11-25-2020), PoliTalker (11-20-2020)
Who did he get a deal with?
PoliTalker (11-20-2020)
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An estimated 61-80,000 Americans died and 800,000 were hospitalised in the 2017-18 flu season, including the most virulent Type A version of H3N2, so why didn't you arseholes call for the total destruction of the world's economic system then? I hope you have plenty of time to ponder over that when you all lose your houses, jobs and relationships!
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