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    Default Trump Failed To Get A Better Deal With Iran

    He said he could make a better deal, but he has failed to even get any talks started.

    He doesn't know how to negotiate.

    All he knows how to do is look for some kind of leverage and flex it.

    In this case, all he did was impose sanctions and then offer to lift them if Iran talks.

    They have said no way, lift the sanctions first, we had a deal, you reneged.

    "“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”"

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    He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.

    To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.

    “They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."

    ...

    "Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place."

    ...

    "Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”"

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    "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is generally believed to be in the camp that wants a deal, but he’s also laid out a set of 12 conditions on Iran that are so broad they may be damaging the odds of talks. A third U.S. official who confirmed the outlines of the internal debate said Pompeo may be worried about his future in the Republican Party and whether engaging in any sort of negotiation with Iran could damage it."

    Trump’s "better deal" with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
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    trump promised a better deal... Just one more promise not kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    He said he could make a better deal, but he has failed to even get any talks started.

    He doesn't know how to negotiate.

    All he knows how to do is look for some kind of leverage and flex it.

    In this case, all he did was impose sanctions and then offer to lift them if Iran talks.

    They have said no way, lift the sanctions first, we had a deal, you reneged.

    "“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”"

    ...

    He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.

    To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.

    “They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."

    ...

    "Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place."

    ...

    "Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”"

    ...

    "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is generally believed to be in the camp that wants a deal, but he’s also laid out a set of 12 conditions on Iran that are so broad they may be damaging the odds of talks. A third U.S. official who confirmed the outlines of the internal debate said Pompeo may be worried about his future in the Republican Party and whether engaging in any sort of negotiation with Iran could damage it."

    Trump’s "better deal" with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
    Once Trump leaves office in January 2021, he and his family and certain Trump administration officials will need to watch there back?!! Remember, Trump had Iran's beloved general killed and they will be seeking revenge too?!!


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    Trump has 2 months to start a War with Iran, so lets not count our chickens yet.

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    Hello signalmankenneth,

    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Once Trump leaves office in January 2021, he and his family and certain Trump administration officials will need to watch there back?!! Remember, Trump had Iran's beloved general killed and they will be seeking revenge too?!!

    Hmmmm. Tough spot.

    If he stays in the USA, he retains SS protection, but leaves himself vulnerable to legal troubles, possibly criminal charges. If he flees the USA and goes into exile, he loses SS protection.
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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Trump has 2 months to start a War with Iran, so lets not count our chickens yet.
    It's hard, really, to see what good that would do him.

    You know what his standard question is to everything.

    "What's in it for me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Trump has 2 months to start a War with Iran, so lets not count our chickens yet.
    Hope springs eternal, huh lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    He said he could make a better deal, but he has failed to even get any talks started.

    He doesn't know how to negotiate.

    All he knows how to do is look for some kind of leverage and flex it.

    In this case, all he did was impose sanctions and then offer to lift them if Iran talks.

    They have said no way, lift the sanctions first, we had a deal, you reneged.

    "“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”"

    ...

    He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.

    To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.

    “They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."

    ...

    "Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place."

    ...

    "Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”"

    ...

    "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is generally believed to be in the camp that wants a deal, but he’s also laid out a set of 12 conditions on Iran that are so broad they may be damaging the odds of talks. A third U.S. official who confirmed the outlines of the internal debate said Pompeo may be worried about his future in the Republican Party and whether engaging in any sort of negotiation with Iran could damage it."

    Trump’s "better deal" with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
    why should we deal with a terror nation? we didn't make deals with Nazi Germany

    The deal should be no nukes behave or else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    He said he could make a better deal, but he has failed to even get any talks started.

    He doesn't know how to negotiate.

    All he knows how to do is look for some kind of leverage and flex it.

    In this case, all he did was impose sanctions and then offer to lift them if Iran talks.

    They have said no way, lift the sanctions first, we had a deal, you reneged.

    "“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”"

    ...

    He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.

    To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.

    “They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."

    ...

    "Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place."

    ...

    "Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”"

    ...

    "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is generally believed to be in the camp that wants a deal, but he’s also laid out a set of 12 conditions on Iran that are so broad they may be damaging the odds of talks. A third U.S. official who confirmed the outlines of the internal debate said Pompeo may be worried about his future in the Republican Party and whether engaging in any sort of negotiation with Iran could damage it."

    Trump’s "better deal" with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
    Yes he put the screws to them good and rightly so they hate America and Israel , but dont fear if blow hole Biden can find a way to pay them money and kiss some terrorists rear end he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    It's hard, really, to see what good that would do him.

    You know what is standard question is to everything.

    "What's in it for rme?
    It's for Netanyahoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    He said he could make a better deal, but he has failed to even get any talks started.

    He doesn't know how to negotiate.

    All he knows how to do is look for some kind of leverage and flex it.

    In this case, all he did was impose sanctions and then offer to lift them if Iran talks.

    They have said no way, lift the sanctions first, we had a deal, you reneged.

    "“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”"

    ...

    He’s said he’s “not looking for war,” wants to talk to Iran without preconditions and isn’t interested in regime change. He called off a military strike on Iran over its downing of an unmanned U.S. drone, overriding the advice of several top aides. His main public demand is that Iran not build nuclear weapons. In return, Trump has offered to help revive Iran’s sanctions-battered economy.

    To observers, that sounds suspiciously like the 2015 deal.

    “They can't have a nuclear weapon,” Trump said Tuesday. “We want to help them. We will be good to them. We will work with them. We will help them in any way we can. But they can't have a nuclear weapon."

    ...

    "Several European officials express astonishment at the audacity of the Trump administration demanding that Iran adhere to the deal when the U.S. the one who breached the agreement in the first place."

    ...

    "Europeans “know that the original sin causing the current escalation in the Gulf is the U.S. violation of the Iran nuclear deal,” said Nathalie Tocci, an adviser to European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini. “At the same time, they are terribly concerned about the escalation and the threat it poses to the Middle East and to Europe itself.”"

    ...

    "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is generally believed to be in the camp that wants a deal, but he’s also laid out a set of 12 conditions on Iran that are so broad they may be damaging the odds of talks. A third U.S. official who confirmed the outlines of the internal debate said Pompeo may be worried about his future in the Republican Party and whether engaging in any sort of negotiation with Iran could damage it."

    Trump’s "better deal" with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
    To be honest, he hasn't gotten a better deal with anyone.

    And he sure as shit hasn't 'hired the best people'.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    why should we deal with a terror nation? we didn't make deals with Nazi Germany

    The deal should be no nukes behave or else!
    I'm glad you're willing to admit that your guy pooched it

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    Who did he get a deal with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    Yes he put the screws to them good and rightly so they hate America and Israel , but dont fear if blow hole Biden can find a way to pay them money and kiss some terrorists rear end he will.
    You trying to blame Biden because your guy is a screw up is perverse

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Once Trump leaves office in January 2021, he and his family and certain Trump administration officials will need to watch there back?!! Remember, Trump had Iran's beloved general killed and they will be seeking revenge too?!!

    Beloved ffs, the guy was a psycho!
    .

    An estimated 61-80,000 Americans died and 800,000 were hospitalised in the 2017-18 flu season, including the most virulent Type A version of H3N2, so why didn't you arseholes call for the total destruction of the world's economic system then? I hope you have plenty of time to ponder over that when you all lose your houses, jobs and relationships!

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