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    Hello NiftyNiblick,

    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    You're making, PoliTalker, a lot of cogent observations on an issue that may not be addressed from a cogent perspective for too much longer.
    The "Greatest Generation" is dead.
    Their progeny, who didn't grow up during the great depression, don't necessarily take the same patient and reasoned approach to things.

    At this point, we should at least be realistic enough to not be surprised by incredibly illogical decisions.
    Yeah, all true, but I still refuse to fall into the abyss of complacency.

    We've got a bad situation on our hands.

    If we cannot act in the appropriate coordinated way, then the thing to do is press for that to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    The focus isn't on protecting the wearer but on protecting others from the wearer.
    Oh, NO NO NO NO NO..... Wait just a cotton pickin' minute!!!!

    The CDC has recently changed their stance on this... They now say that masks work in BOTH instances... So, according to them, there is absolutely NO virtue signaling reason for me to wear one, as others can just wear one to "protect themselves" from me, even though I can't spread a virus that I don't have...

    But, just for shits and giggles, let's accept the CDC's prior stance (after their stance that masks don't work), which you have quoted here, that masks are meant to protect others from oneself... I have to then ask you, how exactly does a mask have the ability to stop viruses from escaping it yet NOT have the ability to stop viruses from entering into it? The VERY SAME MASK PORES are in question... I refer to this stupidity tinged argument as the "Magick Mask Argument"...
    Last edited by gfm7175; 11-18-2020 at 10:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Oh, NO NO NO NO NO..... Wait just a cotton pickin' minute!!!!

    The CDC has recently changed their stance on this... They now say that masks work in BOTH instances... So, according to them, there is absolutely NO virtue signaling reason for me to wear one, as others can just wear one to "protect themselves" from me, even though I can't spread a virus that I don't have...

    But, just for shits and giggles, let's accept the CDC's prior stance (after their stance that masks don't work), which you have quoted here, that masks are meant to protect others from oneself... I have to then ask you, how exactly does a mask have the ability to stop viruses from escaping it yet NOT have the ability to stop viruses from entering into it? The VERY SAME MASK PORES are in question... I refer to this stupidity tinged argument as the "Magick Mask Argument"...
    Sigh.

    When you cough in public, do you cough in someone's face, or do you cover your mouth?

    Why is this difficult for you to grasp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    Sigh.

    When you cough in public, do you cough in someone's face, or do you cover your mouth?

    Why is this difficult for you to grasp?
    Why are you so weak you will let someone tell you what to do and not to do with your personal freedoms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    Sigh.

    When you cough in public, do you cough in someone's face, or do you cover your mouth?

    Why is this difficult for you to grasp?
    WTF does that have ANYTHING to do with what I said to you... I repeat:

    The CDC has recently changed their stance on this... They now say that masks work in BOTH instances... So, according to them, there is absolutely NO virtue signaling reason for me to wear one, as others can just wear one to "protect themselves" from me, even though I can't spread a virus that I don't have...

    But, just for shits and giggles, let's accept the CDC's prior stance (after their stance that masks don't work), which you have quoted here, that masks are meant to protect others from oneself... I have to then ask you, how exactly does a mask have the ability to stop viruses from escaping it yet NOT have the ability to stop viruses from entering into it? The VERY SAME MASK PORES are in question... I refer to this stupidity tinged argument as the "Magick Mask Argument"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Paper masks are 9 times more effective than cloth masks.

    Cloth masks originated because we simply did not have enough of the more preferable paper masks.

    It was intended as a temporary measure to make up for the lack of sufficient numbers of paper masks.

    The goal should be to make paper mask usage universal.

    We need to make paper mask supply a priority so that all cloth masks can be replaced with paper masks.

    Cloth mask wearing could lead to a false sense of protection.

    Distancing is far more effective than mask-wearing.

    Far higher priority needs to be given to distancing.

    If people are far enough apart, no masks are required.

    Masks are only for when distancing is not a possibility.

    Distancing remains the most effective method of preventing disease transmission.
    I agree, I use these paper mask:
    Face Mask MEDICAL Surgical Dental Disposable ASTM LEVEL 3 Mouth Cover Ear

    99%+ FILTRATION! - LAB TESTED! - ASTM LEVEL 3 APPROVED! Ordering some more today?!!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-PCS-Face....c100290.m3507

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    I agree, I use these paper mask:
    Face Mask MEDICAL Surgical Dental Disposable ASTM LEVEL 3 Mouth Cover Ear

    99%+ FILTRATION! - LAB TESTED! - ASTM LEVEL 3 APPROVED! Ordering some more today?!!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-PCS-Face....c100290.m3507
    Those masks do not stop viruses... But, it's your right to ignore reason in order to "feel" protected and/or to virtue signal by "feeling" like you are protecting others...
    Last edited by gfm7175; 11-18-2020 at 01:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    The focus isn't on protecting the wearer but on protecting others from the wearer.
    Cloth masks and paper masks are improper ppe as protection from viruses. Always use correct ppe for protection from hazmat.
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    Cloth masks need to be replaced by vaccines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Why are you so weak you will let someone tell you what to do and not to do with your personal freedoms?
    My right to live is greater to than your right to not be inconvenienced with a mask for a little while. Suck it up, buttercup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    WTF does that have ANYTHING to do with what I said to you... I repeat:

    The CDC has recently changed their stance on this... They now say that masks work in BOTH instances... So, according to them, there is absolutely NO virtue signaling reason for me to wear one, as others can just wear one to "protect themselves" from me, even though I can't spread a virus that I don't have...

    But, just for shits and giggles, let's accept the CDC's prior stance (after their stance that masks don't work), which you have quoted here, that masks are meant to protect others from oneself... I have to then ask you, how exactly does a mask have the ability to stop viruses from escaping it yet NOT have the ability to stop viruses from entering into it? The VERY SAME MASK PORES are in question... I refer to this stupidity tinged argument as the "Magick Mask Argument"...
    It has everything to do with your post. You're operating via grave misunderstanding, doubtless due to the right-wing propaganda machine having invaded your brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Cloth masks and paper masks are improper ppe as protection from viruses. Always use correct ppe for protection from hazmat.
    Ok, but it's it not about protecting the wearer. It's about preventing a virus from spreading.

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    Hello Damocles,

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Cloth masks need to be replaced by vaccines.
    And the pandemic needs to be replaced by the freedom of having it behind us.

    Unfortunately we cannot go directly to the ultimate goal without setting and achieving some intermediate goals.

    Even when vaccines are widely available we will still need to be using masks and practicing distancing.

    We have to use all the tools in our arsenal until the threat is passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    It has everything to do with your post. You're operating via grave misunderstanding, doubtless due to the right-wing propaganda machine having invaded your brain.
    Your refusal to answer simple questions is duly noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    Ok, but it's it not about protecting the wearer. It's about preventing a virus from spreading.
    Continued chanting. Answer my question.

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