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    4 30.77%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    It might be up to the Republicans in Congress to do it. The Generals will comply with the law.
    Not necessarily.

    If we have to rely on the GOP, we're fucked because we all know they are up Trump's ass as far as they can crawl.

    The Generals and other military leaders are the ones who've shown the biggest propensity to break with Trump and openly criticize him.

    I think if Trump tried to circumvent the law and/or the Constitution, they would be the ones most likely to resist that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Not necessarily.

    If we have to rely on the GOP, we're fucked because we all know they are up Trump's ass as far as they can crawl.

    The Generals and other military leaders are the ones who've shown the biggest propensity to break with Trump and openly criticize him.

    I think if Trump tried to circumvent the law and/or the Constitution, they would be the ones most likely to resist that.
    The US military will follow the law. That still leaves Trump a lot of latitude.

    What if Trump activated then entire military and ordered them to the border of Mexico?

    Legal? Yes, AFAIK.

    Smart? No.

    Will the Republicans quietly accept this if not applaud it? I hope not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The US military will follow the law. That still leaves Trump a lot of latitude.

    What if Trump activated then entire military and ordered them to the border of Mexico?

    Legal? Yes, AFAIK.


    Smart? No.

    Will the Republicans quietly accept this if not applaud it? I hope not.
    No, that is not legal according to the Posse Comitatus Act.

    The US military cannot be used for any action within the borders of the US.

    That's why there is a National Guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    No, that is not legal according to the Posse Comitatus Act.

    The US military cannot be used for any action within the borders of the US.

    That's why there is a National Guard.
    That's not true. Are you saying that if Canada attacked the US, the CiC couldn't order US military to the border?

    Posse Comitatus covers using military as LEOs or actions inside the US, not to defend it's borders. If the US military's job isn't to defend the US, then whose job is it?

    https://www.northcom.mil/Newsroom/Fa...comitatus-act/
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    I had to pick #3 because the visual of a two-year old with a machine gun was too good to resist!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    That's not true. Are you saying that if Canada attacked the US, the CiC couldn't order US military to the border?

    Posse Comitatus covers using military as LEOs or actions inside the US, not to defend it's borders. If the US military's job isn't to defend the US, then whose job is it?
    What do you think the chances are that Canada or Mexico is going to attack us?

    ZERO.

    It's an absurd proposition.

    There would be no need to defend the US border so Trump would have no reason to enlist the military for anything other than an offensive act, which as I said, would be illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    What do you think the chances are that Canada or Mexico is going to attack us?

    ZERO.

    It's an absurd proposition.

    There would be no need to defend the US border so Trump would have no reason to enlist the military for anything other than an offensive act, which as I said, would be illegal.
    Sorry, but you are not following the conversation.

    There is a difference between what Trump says he'll do and what he can do without Congressional approval. Violating Posse Comitatus is one thing he can't legally do. Defending the United States, even with some absurd claim of "suspected terrorist attack" from Jihadists based in Canada, isn't violating Posse Comitatus.
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    Let's see... I doubt his minions will remove the B key from every computer keyboard the way Clinton's minions did with the W key when Bush won office. I doubt Trump will loot the White House the way the Clinton's did...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Let's see... I doubt his minions will remove the B key from every computer keyboard the way Clinton's minions did with the W key when Bush won office. I doubt Trump will loot the White House the way the Clinton's did...
    Agreed. They'd just trash the entire keyboard by dumping a mug of coffee on it.
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    Trump's Golden Flounce looks to be pardoning himself and his relatives.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...xon-lame-duck/
    Trump, whose presidency was defined by pushing the limits of executive power, can be expected to break new political and ethical ground: He has already issued high-profile pardons for former Maricopa County, Ariz., sheriff Joe Arpaio, right-wing commentator Dinesh D’Souza and Alice Marie Johnson, whose case was famously championed by Kim Kardashian.

    In the coming days, Trump will probably pardon individuals in circumstances similar to those pardoned by his predecessors in the waning days of their presidencies — those lame-duck pardons have tended to fall into three broad categories. And he might try to grant the most nefarious imaginable pardon, even though it can’t be supported constitutionally: He might try to pardon himself
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    Current and former Trump administration officials say there's been minimal preparation for an expected onslaught of clemencies, as Trump is still pursuing dubious legal challenges to the election. But his Twitter feed over the past three years offers a working list of where the President might turn to wield his pardon power -- primarily toward those targeted by former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

    Perhaps the biggest looming pardon question is whether Trump will consider granting himself a pardon, amid state investigations into his business and finances and the prospect of federal investigators scrutinizing him after he leaves office.

    Trump has been asking aides since 2017 about whether he can self-pardon, former aides tell CNN. One former White House official said Trump asked about self-pardons as well as pardons for his family. Trump even asked if he could issue pardons pre-emptively for things people could be charged with in the future, the former official said.

    "Once he learned about it, he was obsessed with the power of pardons," the official said. "I always thought he also liked it because it was a way to do a favor."
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    At least part of Trump's Flounce is "The Purge: White House". The speculation is that Trump is firing everyone who won't take an unlawful order.

    As the video proves, Trump has a lot of experience firing "all the best people"

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    The Purge continues.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/polit...ump/index.html
    Trump announced on Twitter he was firing Chris Krebs, the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, and directly tied it to Krebs' statement that said there "is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacomaman View Post
    We shall see if his supporters are actually stupid enough to commit acts of violence on behalf of tRump.
    They will if Trump orders them to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I had to pick #3 because the visual of a two-year old with a machine gun was too good to resist!
    Trump isn't done yet. Maybe he's holding out hope for December 14th. He could still start a war either by action, such as attacking Iran, or inaction by pulling our troops out of Iraq or Afghanistan and letting them collapse to the Jihadists. Obviously Trump doesn't care about how many thousands of lives lost by such actions. He's more interested is showing his displeasure to everyone who didn't vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    At least part of Trump's Flounce is "The Purge: White House". The speculation is that Trump is firing everyone who won't take an unlawful order.

    As the video proves, Trump has a lot of experience firing "all the best people"

    I have never worked for an employer who demanded you lie for them or face termination and unemployment.

    I assume at this point the only people who can stand working for Trump are gimps, cucks, sycophants.

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