Covid19 question.

[AProudLefty]

The Constitution is an umbrella, not a cage.

I love that one!!!!!!!

[Doc Dutch]

Yes.
Firstly, the CDC experts initially said it (masks) were not appropriate. Which is correct.
But then people started getting worked up so they said wear the mask to make them feel like they were "doing something".
Look at the youtube if a doctor with a vape thing and a slew of different masjs and respirators. The vape "smoke" which is just water vapors goes right through every one.
Remember the mini fiasco about the update CDC put out then immediately pulled off ? Did you look at it once it got put back up ? Ill temind you, it said "it MAY BE possible" to catch china cooties by inhaling them. Up until that time it was only touch.
So, yes i believe what the scientists said and demonstrated.
Ill wear one out because its not worth the grief.
But they're useless.

My understanding is that the initial thoughts about masks regarded their effectiveness to stop catching the disease whereas they are an excellent first line weapon for preventing the spread of disease.

Regardless:

Common sense should always prevail no matter what anyone says.

[Celticguy]

So you get your medical advice from a youtube video because you think medical professionals are partisan. Okay, got it.

No. As noted, i got it from the CDC and what i already knew about masks in medicine.

[Celticguy]

My understanding is that the initial thoughts about masks regarded their effectiveness to stop catching the disease whereas they are an excellent first line weapon for preventing the spread of disease.

Regardless:

Common sense should always prevail no matter what anyone says.

And yet it hasnt. As any nurse in a hospital could tell you.

Who is at higher risk than them ? They know the purpose of the various masks n respirators.
You do yourself FAR more good washing your hands. Gloves are only good if you put them on when you enter a space and toss them when you leave that space. The idea is to not transport from one space to another. My usually smart brother does not grasp this concept.

[Doc Dutch]

And yet it hasnt. As any nurse in a hospital could tell you.

Who is at higher risk than them ? They know the purpose of the various masks n respirators.
You do yourself FAR more good washing your hands. Gloves are only good if you put them on when you enter a space and toss them when you leave that space. The idea is to not transport from one space to another. My usually smart brother does not grasp this concept.

Some people are idiots, most people are not. What are the nurses you know saying? I'm related to two.

Yes, no doubt they know the difference in gear needed to work with a COVID patient daily and to minimize spreading COVID in Walmart.

[Controlled Opposition]

Except that THIS time the POTUS will actually listen to their recommendations, and issue the appropriate instructions to the people. He won't spend a half an hour daily up at the podium praising himself and quack remedies he heard about on Fox, and denigrating his own physicians and scientists.

Do you suppose that they will recommend anything new? I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so that Biden can take credit for the scientists' work.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Do you suppose that they will recommend anything new? I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so that Biden can take credit for the scientists' work.

Personally I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so people will stop getting sick, dying, overloading the health care system, and infecting others too. It would be wonderful to be able to eat out on a busy Friday night, hop on a plane and see my new g-kid, go to an art fair or a game, and go to school in person again.

[Controlled Opposition]

Personally I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so people will stop getting sick, dying, overloading the health care system, and infecting others too. It would be wonderful to be able to eat out on a busy Friday night, hop on a plane and see my new g-kid, go to an art fair or a game, and go to school in person again.

Yes, to all of the above, especially with the holidays approaching.

[Into the Night]

You're misconstruing what a mask mandate is. It's mandated for when you are out in public amongst others. It is NOT mandated if you are out walking your dog, mowing the lawn, hiking on a trail (unless you are hiking in a group of non-household members). The RW media wants to scare and outrage their viewers with lies. Don't let them.

Masks don't stop a virus. There is no need for them.

[Into the Night]

Well, it's ridiculous to think that would be the case. You can't enforce stuff like that even if you wanted to. I go outside all the time. You only need masks in public areas. Now if you live in city areas it will be different if you walk right out into busy areas. My brother used to live in an apartment a few blocks down from the Hancock building and stepping out from there would likely need a mask. Heck, I'm sure the apartment complexes public areas would require them.

Masks do not stop a virus. They are not needed.

[Into the Night]

Except that THIS time the POTUS will actually listen to their recommendations, and issue the appropriate instructions to the people. He won't spend a half an hour daily up at the podium praising himself and quack remedies he heard about on Fox, and denigrating his own physicians and scientists.

No science here. Move along...move along...

[Into the Night]

Do you honestly believe that? I'm serious, does your mind really reject every medical expert out there and come to some inane conclusion that they are all wrong? That is truly bizarre.

You don't get to speak for anyone else but yourself. You don't get to speak for every medical expert. They don't all agree either.

[Into the Night]

No.

The idiot also doesn't recognize that he really doesn't have the authority to order that to begin with. Individual states and governors would.

Individual and States don't have that authority either. Governors are not kings. They MUST conform to the constitution of that State and they cannot override the legislature except by veto. No constitution in any State authorizes that government to require a particular piece of clothing or to establish a state religion (such as the Church of Covid), or to pick and choose which businesses are allowed to operate as 'essential' (see the 14th amendment of the US Constitution).

The only way the President could do it is like Carter did the 55 mph national speed limit. That is threatening to withhold federal funds until such a mandate is in place. States might do this, but then like the hated 55 mph speed limit, ignore enforcement or put in place a token enforcement that means nothing.

The President has no such authority. Carter exceeded his authority.

That would be followed by the general public pushing back and ignoring or flaunting the order.

Generally happens when the people in government ignore the constitution.

[Into the Night]

Are you sure it’s outside or in public? As a job, on the street downtown passing people, in the store?

I don’t plan on wearing one in my yard.

I don't plan on wearing one.

[Into the Night]

So you get your medical advice from a youtube video because you think medical professionals are partisan. Okay, got it.

Medical professionals ARE partisan. They are people, and have political views like anyone else.
Expert worship. Since you decided to ignore what Fauci said, I'll leave you in your own paradox stew.