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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Obama is not President.

    Biden is President.

    Might be time for your bedtime, get some rest.
    The guy must not have a bedtime. I think I saw him posting discussions at maybe 4 in the morning before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Arminius

    This message is hidden because Arminius is on your ignore list.
    I call him Captain Bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    The guy must not have a bedtime. I think I saw him posting discussions at maybe 4 in the morning before.
    meth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    I call him Captain Bullshit.
    Someone's a whiny snowflake avoiding the debate.



    So Charoite = Crocodile. So you're admitting you violated the forum rules by creating duplicate accounts? Or is this the part where you backtrack and claim to just be plagiarizing Crocodile's incessant mindless name-calling?



    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    The guy must not have a bedtime. I think I saw him posting discussions at maybe 4 in the morning before.
    Stalker much? Sheesh. Get a life.

    Democrats lied about Trump being a secret Russian agent for 4 yrs straight to falsely de-legitimize his election & cheered the resulting Democrat domestic terrorism (even praising & participating in the storming of capitals) & even bailed the terrorists out of jail. YEARS of "organic" Democrat terrorism then magically halted right before Election Day, & now they crucify their opponents for resisting their election theft.

    https://tinyurl.com/4r9kda9b

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    Still not a single example of President Trump actually BEING an authoritarian in any way, as we can show Democrats are in a hundred different ways.

    Democrats lied about Trump being a secret Russian agent for 4 yrs straight to falsely de-legitimize his election & cheered the resulting Democrat domestic terrorism (even praising & participating in the storming of capitals) & even bailed the terrorists out of jail. YEARS of "organic" Democrat terrorism then magically halted right before Election Day, & now they crucify their opponents for resisting their election theft.

    https://tinyurl.com/4r9kda9b

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You lost go take a nap
    Did you when Trump won?

    Did any Democrat when Trump won?

    Dumbass intellectually dishonest donkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG Yurt View Post
    Did you when Trump won?

    Did any Democrat when Trump won?

    Dumbass intellectually dishonest donkey.

    Americans have rejected your hate, ignorance, caging children and isolationism. Americans are disgusted by people like you

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    Arminius be like....



    Somebody please- see if he needs a diaper change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG Yurt View Post
    Did you when Trump won?

    Did any Democrat when Trump won?

    Dumbass intellectually dishonest donkey.
    I mean, he just won again. Cheating isn't winning.
    Democrats lied about Trump being a secret Russian agent for 4 yrs straight to falsely de-legitimize his election & cheered the resulting Democrat domestic terrorism (even praising & participating in the storming of capitals) & even bailed the terrorists out of jail. YEARS of "organic" Democrat terrorism then magically halted right before Election Day, & now they crucify their opponents for resisting their election theft.

    https://tinyurl.com/4r9kda9b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Arminius be like....



    Somebody please- see if he needs a diaper change!
    Democrats in 2016:

    I refuse to accept the election results. It's all rigged! Our democracy! Secret Russian agents everywhere!




    Democrats in 2017:

    I refuse to accept the election results. It's all rigged! Our democracy! Secret Russian agents everywhere!




    Democrats in 2018:

    I refuse to accept the election results. It's all rigged! Our democracy! Secret Russian agents everywhere!




    Democrats in 2019:

    I refuse to accept the election results. It's all rigged! Our democracy! Secret Russian agents everywhere!




    Democrats in 2020:

    Objecting to ACTUAL election theft is "whining."

    Last edited by Arminius; 11-08-2020 at 09:07 AM.
    Democrats lied about Trump being a secret Russian agent for 4 yrs straight to falsely de-legitimize his election & cheered the resulting Democrat domestic terrorism (even praising & participating in the storming of capitals) & even bailed the terrorists out of jail. YEARS of "organic" Democrat terrorism then magically halted right before Election Day, & now they crucify their opponents for resisting their election theft.

    https://tinyurl.com/4r9kda9b

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    So still not a single example. See how this works? Accuse, smear, and slander conservatives as Hitler without being able to cite a single example, while Democrats actually ACT like Nazis at every turn. Two straight pages of subject changes and posturing to avoid having to come up with a SINGLE example.

    Democrats lied about Trump being a secret Russian agent for 4 yrs straight to falsely de-legitimize his election & cheered the resulting Democrat domestic terrorism (even praising & participating in the storming of capitals) & even bailed the terrorists out of jail. YEARS of "organic" Democrat terrorism then magically halted right before Election Day, & now they crucify their opponents for resisting their election theft.

    https://tinyurl.com/4r9kda9b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    So still not a single example. See how this works? Accuse, smear, and slander conservatives as Hitler without being able to cite a single example, while Democrats actually ACT like Nazis at every turn. Two straight pages of subject changes and posturing to avoid having to come up with a SINGLE example.

    You're just being a sore loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    I'm curious. I constantly hear Democrats cry about Trump as if he's Adolf Hitler, but they never seem able to name a single lawless act of tyranny that he's committed. Are they just blindly parroting hysterical CNN propaganda without even considering the factual basis and completely missing the staggering hypocrisy? Or do they just know that it is Democrats who are generally shredding the Constitution, corrupting the system, and abusing their power? Because I have a laundry list of examples of Obama doing those things. Let's compare.

    Examples:

    -Obama using the IRS to target conservative groups in the middle of a major national election.

    -Obama illegally seizing media phone records, targeting, and blacklisting journalists who questioned him.

    -Obama's EPA giving farmers' personal information to environmentalist groups so they can show up at their homes and terrorize their families.

    -Obama's DOJ targeting and fraudulently prosecuting Romney donors for obscure crimes for which no one else is prosecuted.

    -Obama starting an illegal war without Congress in Libya.

    -Obama ordering insurance companies not to criticize Obamacare and threatening to attack them if they do.

    -Obama weaponizing the FBI and using it to lie to federal judges to manufacture the Russian collusion hoax.

    -Obama disregarding an order by a federal judge to stop illegally trying to shut down all American energy exploration. (Article II, Section 3)

    -Obama's blatantly illegal health care takeover and every illegal thing he did to selectively enforce, rewrite, and make up what was going to be in it when it proved to be a disaster.

    -Obama's blatantly illegal financial takeover (Dodd-Frank) trampling due process and separation of powers.

    -Obama subverting bankruptcy law and the Constitution’s Takings and Due Process Clauses with the Chrysler bailouts.

    -Obama's blatantly illegal recess appointments.

    -Obama's oath-breaking refusal to enforce our immigration laws.

    -Obama attacking free speech and due process on campus (Title IX abuses).

    -Obama arbitrarily using the EPA to enact new laws without Congress, like the Clean Power Plan, Cap-and-Trade, and the Clean Water Rule.

    -Obama rigging elections by attacking any state that requires an ID to vote.

    -Obama illegally imposing "Net Neutrality" (didn't liberals insist that repealing that would destroy the Internet as we know it? LOL).

    -Obama ignoring Federal law requiring that each state be notified when/where refugees are being placed in their state. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama taking the Iran Deal to the UN prior to the 60-day review period mandated by the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review, and failing to turn over side agreements as outlined. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama ignoring Congressional Treaty Powers. (Article II Section 1, Article II Section 2)

    -Obama attacking gun rights (Operation Choke Point).

    -Obama treasonously releasing top terrorists back to their strongholds. (Article II Section 3; Dereliction of Duty Article II Section 4)

    -Obama illegally appointing dozens of extremist federal czars without advice and consent of the Senate. (Article II Section 2)

    -Obama issuing 23 separate Executive Orders violating 2nd Amendment.

    -Obama illegally rewriting our immigration laws without Congress. (Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8)

    -Obama lawlessly releasing convicted illegal immigrants. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama illegally ignoring the 2006 Secure Fence Act. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama illegally ignoring the Defense of Marriage Act. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama using the DOJ to ignore section 8 of the Voting Rights Act. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama unilaterally rewriting the 1996 welfare reform law without Congress. (Article 1 Section 1)

    -Obama illegally using the NLRB to dictate to a business (Boeing) where they can do business.

    -Obama enforcing legislation already struck down by the Supreme Court (Voting Rights Act).

    -Obama's Executive Order 13524 giving INTERPOL jurisdiction over U.S. law enforcement.

    -Obama unilaterally enacting cyber security laws without Congress. (Executive Order 13636, violating Article 1 Section 1)

    -Obama launching drone strikes on U.S. Citizens. (5th Amendment)

    -Obama illegally taking Chairmanship of UN Security Council. (Section 9)

    -Obama illegally attacking and suing a state for enforcing federal law.

    -Obama's Independent Payment Advisory Board. (Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1).

    -Obama's illegal bribery of Senator Ben Nelson and Senator Mary Landrey. (Article II, Section 4)

    -Obama's Prism program. (4th Amendment)

    -Obama ignoring a judicial order to fulfill legal obligation regarding Yucca Mountain waste. (Article II, Section 3)

    -Obama ordering the State Department to ignore the law barring entry to U.S. those giving political or charitable aid to known terrorist groups. (Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3)

    -Obama trying to unilaterally trying to invent a cell phone tax without Congress. (Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1)

    -Obama's violation of the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments with the NDAA.

    -Obama illegally refusing to enforce drug sentencing laws. (Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1, Article II Section 3).

    -Obama corrupting and politicizing the Census Bureau for partisan gain.

    -Obama illegally ordering private companies and religious institutions to violate their own beliefs and provide contraceptives free of charge to their employees.

    -Obama refusing to let the Attorney General prosecute armed Black Panthers who were caught on video openly intimidating voters at polling places on Election Day in 2008.

    So is this like all their crying about "our democracy" while being the only ones relentlessly attacking free and fair elections? They're just making up whatever they feel like and resorting to blatantly dishonest projection? Or are there real, substantive, comparable examples of President Trump doing anything like the level of abuses of the Chicago thug ACORN president?
    That list is the tip of the Obamessiah iceberg.

    But when Biden/Harris hit the country/world, it's going to be titanic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    I'm curious. I constantly hear Democrats cry about Trump as if he's Adolf Hitler, but they never seem able to name a single lawless act of tyranny that he's committed. Are they just blindly parroting hysterical CNN propaganda without even considering the factual basis and completely missing the staggering hypocrisy? Or do they just know that it is Democrats who are generally shredding the Constitution, corrupting the system, and abusing their power? Because I have a laundry list of examples of Obama doing those things. Let's compare.

    Examples:

    -Obama using the IRS to target conservative groups in the middle of a major national election.

    -Obama illegally seizing media phone records, targeting, and blacklisting journalists who questioned him.

    -Obama's EPA giving farmers' personal information to environmentalist groups so they can show up at their homes and terrorize their families.

    -Obama's DOJ targeting and fraudulently prosecuting Romney donors for obscure crimes for which no one else is prosecuted.

    -Obama starting an illegal war without Congress in Libya.

    -Obama ordering insurance companies not to criticize Obamacare and threatening to attack them if they do.

    -Obama weaponizing the FBI and using it to lie to federal judges to manufacture the Russian collusion hoax.

    -Obama disregarding an order by a federal judge to stop illegally trying to shut down all American energy exploration. (Article II, Section 3)

    -Obama's blatantly illegal health care takeover and every illegal thing he did to selectively enforce, rewrite, and make up what was going to be in it when it proved to be a disaster.

    -Obama's blatantly illegal financial takeover (Dodd-Frank) trampling due process and separation of powers.

    -Obama subverting bankruptcy law and the Constitution’s Takings and Due Process Clauses with the Chrysler bailouts.

    -Obama's blatantly illegal recess appointments.

    -Obama's oath-breaking refusal to enforce our immigration laws.

    -Obama attacking free speech and due process on campus (Title IX abuses).

    -Obama arbitrarily using the EPA to enact new laws without Congress, like the Clean Power Plan, Cap-and-Trade, and the Clean Water Rule.

    -Obama rigging elections by attacking any state that requires an ID to vote.

    -Obama illegally imposing "Net Neutrality" (didn't liberals insist that repealing that would destroy the Internet as we know it? LOL).

    -Obama ignoring Federal law requiring that each state be notified when/where refugees are being placed in their state. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama taking the Iran Deal to the UN prior to the 60-day review period mandated by the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review, and failing to turn over side agreements as outlined. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama ignoring Congressional Treaty Powers. (Article II Section 1, Article II Section 2)

    -Obama attacking gun rights (Operation Choke Point).

    -Obama treasonously releasing top terrorists back to their strongholds. (Article II Section 3; Dereliction of Duty Article II Section 4)

    -Obama illegally appointing dozens of extremist federal czars without advice and consent of the Senate. (Article II Section 2)

    -Obama issuing 23 separate Executive Orders violating 2nd Amendment.

    -Obama illegally rewriting our immigration laws without Congress. (Article II Section 3; Article I Section 8)

    -Obama lawlessly releasing convicted illegal immigrants. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama illegally ignoring the 2006 Secure Fence Act. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama illegally ignoring the Defense of Marriage Act. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama using the DOJ to ignore section 8 of the Voting Rights Act. (Article II Section 3)

    -Obama unilaterally rewriting the 1996 welfare reform law without Congress. (Article 1 Section 1)

    -Obama illegally using the NLRB to dictate to a business (Boeing) where they can do business.

    -Obama enforcing legislation already struck down by the Supreme Court (Voting Rights Act).

    -Obama's Executive Order 13524 giving INTERPOL jurisdiction over U.S. law enforcement.

    -Obama unilaterally enacting cyber security laws without Congress. (Executive Order 13636, violating Article 1 Section 1)

    -Obama launching drone strikes on U.S. Citizens. (5th Amendment)

    -Obama illegally taking Chairmanship of UN Security Council. (Section 9)

    -Obama illegally attacking and suing a state for enforcing federal law.

    -Obama's Independent Payment Advisory Board. (Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1).

    -Obama's illegal bribery of Senator Ben Nelson and Senator Mary Landrey. (Article II, Section 4)

    -Obama's Prism program. (4th Amendment)

    -Obama ignoring a judicial order to fulfill legal obligation regarding Yucca Mountain waste. (Article II, Section 3)

    -Obama ordering the State Department to ignore the law barring entry to U.S. those giving political or charitable aid to known terrorist groups. (Article. I. Section. 1; Article II, Section 3)

    -Obama trying to unilaterally trying to invent a cell phone tax without Congress. (Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1)

    -Obama's violation of the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments with the NDAA.

    -Obama illegally refusing to enforce drug sentencing laws. (Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1, Article II Section 3).

    -Obama corrupting and politicizing the Census Bureau for partisan gain.

    -Obama illegally ordering private companies and religious institutions to violate their own beliefs and provide contraceptives free of charge to their employees.

    -Obama refusing to let the Attorney General prosecute armed Black Panthers who were caught on video openly intimidating voters at polling places on Election Day in 2008.

    So is this like all their crying about "our democracy" while being the only ones relentlessly attacking free and fair elections? They're just making up whatever they feel like and resorting to blatantly dishonest projection? Or are there real, substantive, comparable examples of President Trump doing anything like the level of abuses of the Chicago thug ACORN president?

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