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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    False.
    So, BTT, is it in the Biden plan to expand use of Critical Pedagogy and it's half-cousin, Common Core? I'm curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I don't think he can make public education in America much worse than it already is....
    What is so bad about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    So, BTT, is it in the Biden plan to expand use of Critical Pedagogy and it's half-cousin, Common Core? I'm curious.
    We must prioritize education and funding for underrepresented students, including students of color, girls, and low-income students, to help remove enrollment and achievement barriers.

    We will equip students with the knowledge and skills to counter the rising tide of denialism by promoting environmental and climate literacy, and reverse the Trump Administration’s cuts to the National Environmental Education Act. In addition, our education system will develop the deep learning and life skills needed to thrive in the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    We must prioritize education and funding for underrepresented students, including students of color, girls, and low-income students, to help remove enrollment and achievement barriers.

    We will equip students with the knowledge and skills to counter the rising tide of denialism by promoting environmental and climate literacy, and reverse the Trump Administration’s cuts to the National Environmental Education Act. In addition, our education system will develop the deep learning and life skills needed to thrive in the 21st century.
    What if those students don't feel like going to class?
    How about we use the money to pay them to go to class and turn in homework?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Children leaning from their parents and at home isn't about the money, it's about the parents interacting with their kids in positive ways and having an environment that encourages learning. If a child is growing up in a home without books, magazines, and such in it, parents who are disinterested in learning and knowledge, and the major entertainment is a television and video games, there isn't going to be much learning going on regardless of how much money that family makes.

    There is no known correlation between spending on education and quality of outcomes.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/educatio...comes-for-kids

    The quality of life and how well educated parents are usually has far more impact on children and learning than school alone does. By quality of life I mean exposure to ideas and knowledge not having a bigger, better flat screen television or a brand new house.
    Every classroom in America today has a Flatscreen in it. TV's are used extensively now in all schools private and public. NOT Running LEAVE IT TO BEAVER CLIPS but it is being used as a learning tool.

    But, I hear what you are saying about Parents. Parents should never leave everything up to teachers regarding education.

    If parents would just teach their children to behave- That would take a lot of stress off of the teachers right there.

    Parents should always choose what their children are viewing on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    What if those students don't feel like going to class?
    How about we use the money to pay them to go to class and turn in homework?
    The evidence from nearly two decades of education reforms that hinge on standardized test scores shows clearly that high-stakes testing has not led to enough improvement in outcomes for students or for schools, and can lead to discrimination against students, particularly students with disabilities, students of color, low-income students, and English language learners.

    The Biden-Harris Administration will end the use of such high-stakes tests and encourage states to develop reliable, continuous, evidence-based approaches to student assessment that rely on multiple and holistic measures that better represent student achievement.

    Assessments will provide families with clear, accessible, consistent information about how well schools are serving individual students and groups of students, while better representing student achievement.

    Students, parents, and educators will be supported by data collection and analysis disaggregated by race, gender, disability, immigration status, and other important variables, to identify and address disparities in educational equity, access, and outcomes.

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    Biden will not do shit, unless it is via executive order

    He has no mandate. America did speak on that. no court packing either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    What is so bad about it?


    Because we spend a fortune on it and get really crappy results...

    Across the Board, Scores Drop in Math and Reading for U.S. Students
    https://www.usnews.com/news/educatio...or-us-students

    Student performance lags on Nation's Report Card
    https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/s...ns-report-card

    U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-math-science/

    My personal view is that the biggest impediment to K-12 education in America is requiring teachers to go to colleges of education with the second being heavy government involvement in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Every classroom in America today has a Flatscreen in it. TV's are used extensively now in all schools private and public. NOT Running LEAVE IT TO BEAVER CLIPS but it is being used as a learning tool.

    But, I hear what you are saying about Parents. Parents should never leave everything up to teachers regarding education.

    If parents would just teach their children to behave- That would take a lot of stress off of the teachers right there.

    Parents should always choose what their children are viewing on TV.
    I would prefer that a great, well educated, and motivated teacher be working in a ramshackle classroom with kids than a mediocre, union protected, teacher with a Master's degree that can't tell you anything about basic chemistry or do more than GED level math in a classroom with every technological benefit there is be teaching our kids.
    We'll get better results with smart, motivated teachers who know their subject matter every time than with teachers that have an outstanding resume and lots of pieces of paper hanging on the wall but couldn't think their way out of a wet paper sack.

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    this thread is so sad

    do democrats think the executive branch legislates?

    You do get that you lost seats in the house, right? All of America weighed in - and don't like progressive policies.

    you get that after the way you acted, the senate will do nothing but investigate Biden

    you get that after how you acted, the senate will not make it easy for any judges to be nominated. If a SCOTUS seat opens, the senate will refuse to put him through. You can count on that

    so enjoy the biden transformation.

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    Are you kidding me !! That senile old man won’t get anything done ! WTFU !

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    What if those students don't feel like going to class?
    How about we use the money to pay them to go to class and turn in homework?
    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    The evidence from nearly two decades of education reforms that hinge on standardized test scores shows clearly that high-stakes testing has not led to enough improvement in outcomes for students or for schools, and can lead to discrimination against students, particularly students with disabilities, students of color, low-income students, and English language learners.

    The Biden-Harris Administration will end the use of such high-stakes tests and encourage states to develop reliable, continuous, evidence-based approaches to student assessment that rely on multiple and holistic measures that better represent student achievement.

    Assessments will provide families with clear, accessible, consistent information about how well schools are serving individual students and groups of students, while better representing student achievement.

    Students, parents, and educators will be supported by data collection and analysis disaggregated by race, gender, disability, immigration status, and other important variables, to identify and address disparities in educational equity, access, and outcomes.
    Irrelevant to the two questions. I'll repeat:
    What if those students don't feel like going to class?
    How about we use the money to pay them to go to class and turn in homework?

    I realize those are uncomfortable questions for you , so I'll understand if you don't want to answer them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biden Transition Team View Post
    We must prioritize education and funding for underrepresented students, including students of color, girls, and low-income students, to help remove enrollment and achievement barriers.

    We will equip students with the knowledge and skills to counter the rising tide of denialism by promoting environmental and climate literacy, and reverse the Trump Administration’s cuts to the National Environmental Education Act. In addition, our education system will develop the deep learning and life skills needed to thrive in the 21st century.
    That's just rhetorical bullshit. Nothing you stated has anything to do with the quality of or what is taught in public schools today. Much of what you stated is a combination of political correctness and hints at propagandizing and politicizing education as well. For example, you say this,
    knowledge and skills to counter the rising tide of denialism by promoting environmental and climate literacy,
    I'd be happy to demolish you on "climate literacy" any time you like. I'll even start. Wind and solar are not the answer to reducing CO2 and are horribly expensive, inefficient, and technologically dead ends that should be dropped nearly entirely if CO2 reduction is truly your goal.

    Does that run counter to what you would "...equip students with the knowledge and skills to counter the rising tide of denialism..."? If it does then what you stated argues for propagandizing and politicizing the classroom if I am correct on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    this thread is so sad

    do democrats think the executive branch legislates?

    You do get that you lost seats in the house, right? All of America weighed in - and don't like progressive policies.

    you get that after the way you acted, the senate will do nothing but investigate Biden

    you get that after how you acted, the senate will not make it easy for any judges to be nominated. If a SCOTUS seat opens, the senate will refuse to put him through. You can count on that

    so enjoy the biden transformation.
    No, Democrats think the Presidency is a sort of dicktator-lite thing where a President they like can do whatever the hell he pleases and Congress can STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, Democrats think the Presidency is a sort of dicktator-lite thing where a President they like can do whatever the hell he pleases and Congress can STFU.
    ugg, the Obots are coming back?

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