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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Walt,



    We may not have any definitive news by Weds, but hopefully we do and it is great news for America that BIDEN WINS.

    Best case would be a decisive win by Biden and Harris.
    Let's say trump goes ahead with his plan to appoint some Electors without consulting voters. We would have two sets of Electors sending their votes to Congress from key battleground states. That means the decision would be made sometime in January. Even if the decision were made for Biden in January, trump could try to fight it for months after that.

    This could get very ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    I agree but my reference to watching Florida was just meant to be an initial indicator
    If Biden loses Florida, he may well win the election. He does not need Florida. If trump loses Florida, he has lost the election. He desperately needs Florida. Florida is a one way tipping point state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    Your plan in 2012 was to get rid of the Scary Black Man.
    These stupid racist fuxstix are still intimidated by Obama. What a collection of losers tRumpanzees are....lol
    Please leave your Trump 2024 signs in your yard. That way, my dog will know where to take a dump.

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    tRumptards still claiming the "left" is full of hate.....lol

    The Rightie trump nutjobs are the new "Klan".
    Please leave your Trump 2024 signs in your yard. That way, my dog will know where to take a dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I hope Biden will win, but trump may win. Biden definitely has the better chance.

    I really do not know how we could hold on for another four years. What I am seeing is a country that can barely hold on till January 20th.

    If trump wins the election, you can expect a stock market collapse within weeks (if not hours). If we were not already in a depression, that would lead to a recession. As it is, that will lead to a worse depression. And then trump will start doing things... CRAZY THINGS!!!... And it will really start getting ugly.

    If Biden wins, there is a lot of hard work ahead of us. I like hard work. Hard work means you can build something. It is a good thing.
    Why would the market collapse with Trumps second win when it didn’t collapse after his first win lol?

    The hardest work under a Biden win will be trying to figure out which faction will be pulling Biden's puppet strings. If there wasn’t so much at stake in this election it would actually be fun to watch.

    Will we even see much of him?

    What if the raging lefties in the streets decide to hit the streets if Biden tries to govern as a moderate? Will BLM continue to riot and loot every time a thug gets shot or killed by a white cop? [can only be a black thug—white thug lives don’t matter]

    How impotent will Biden’s Magic COVID Wand turn out to be?

    Does anyone *really think* we can continue the economic recovery with Biden raising taxes? Will he listen to ‘approved scientists’ and lock us down again?

    Biden has an abysmal foreign policy track record—he’s been wrong on practically everything. Will that trend continue?

    Like I said, if not for what’s at stake it would be fun to watch it play out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    If Biden loses Florida, he may well win the election. He does not need Florida. If trump loses Florida, he has lost the election. He desperately needs Florida. Florida is a one way tipping point state.
    It’s been said if Biden loses FL he’s not longer favored to win.

    If Trump wins will the pollsters ever recover lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why would the market collapse with Trumps second win when it didn’t collapse after his first win lol?
    After four years of barely being able to hold things together, people are tired. The stock market is massively overvalued. Most investors realize we cannot make it for another four years, so will be looking to get out before the crash. Investors trying to avoid getting caught by the crash will paradoxically be the spark of the crash. It is usually that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    What if the raging lefties in the streets decide to hit the streets
    Listening to people really does help to calm the situation. trump hates people, and does not want to listen to them. That is why he has been unable to calm either side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    How impotent will Biden’s Magic COVID Wand turn out to be?
    And here again, we get back to the hard work thing. trump is looking for a magic, a miracle, luck, or anything other than hard work. Biden is willing to do the hard work.

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    Hello Walt,

    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Let's say trump goes ahead with his plan to appoint some Electors without consulting voters. We would have two sets of Electors sending their votes to Congress from key battleground states. That means the decision would be made sometime in January. Even if the decision were made for Biden in January, trump could try to fight it for months after that.

    This could get very ugly.
    That message is out there. People understand the importance of voting this time. Many are kicking themselves for allowing Trump to win in 2016. They've seen the damage and they want to make up for their mistake. It could be a Biden landslide. Many who are unlikely to ever be counted in the polls could come out and vote for Biden. I heard that in Texas, more people have already voted early and mail-in than the entire election results in 2016. And many of the newest voters are in the 18-24 age group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s been said if Biden loses FL he’s not longer favored to win.
    Actually, predictions are not even using Florida as a Biden win. If Biden gets all the Strongly Democratic, and Likely Democratic, then Biden does not need any of the Barely Democratic. Biden does not need Florida, Arizona, Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Iowa, etc.

    If Biden loses Florida, AND Pennsylvania, then he really is no longer favored to win. It would then be a closer to 50/50 odds following the models, but would be reasonable to question the models, and to maybe say trump is favored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Walt,



    That message is out there. People understand the importance of voting this time. Many are kicking themselves for allowing Trump to win in 2016. They've seen the damage and they want to make up for their mistake. It could be a Biden landslide. Many who are unlikely to ever be counted in the polls could come out and vote for Biden. I heard that in Texas, more people have already voted early and mail-in than the entire election results in 2016. And many of the newest voters are in the 18-24 age group.
    There has been a huge number of younger voters and minority voters in Texas. I don't want to get my hopes too high, because Texas is still a very tough state for Biden, but if Biden wins Texas... It is impossible for trump to win in any way that does not include using the Russian military to occupy US soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    After four years of barely being able to hold things together, people are tired. The stock market is massively overvalued. Most investors realize we cannot make it for another four years, so will be looking to get out before the crash. Investors trying to avoid getting caught by the crash will paradoxically be the spark of the crash. It is usually that way.



    Listening to people really does help to calm the situation. trump hates people, and does not want to listen to them. That is why he has been unable to calm either side.



    And here again, we get back to the hard work thing. trump is looking for a magic, a miracle, luck, or anything other than hard work. Biden is willing to do the hard work.
    Once a virus is loose in a population the virus is gonna virus. Europe is struggling to come to grips with this as some of the affected countries are going to lockdown, again. Only to find out the virus isn’t done virusing after they open up again.

    You’re delusional about BLM and the raging lefties. Under Biden [or would it be Harris?] they won’t be able to scapegoat Trump for lefty violence and mayhem.

    If the market is over valued and heading for a correction—that won’t disappear under Biden. The bigger question is the economy. I see ZERO HOPE of an economic recovery under Biden. Especially, if he really intends to keep locking it down every time there’s a spike in cases. In fact, it will lead to an unmitigated economic disaster. Killing energy sector jobs on top of everything else.

    Nothing short of madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I sat out in 2012.

    I can’t wait for to vote—in person, on Tuesday. If I have to crawl to the polls on my hands and knees, I’m voting on Election Day.
    You Trump assholes are always on your knees...so it won't be a new position for you.

    Crawl to the polls if you must. But don't pretend you are putting yourself out by having to drop to your knees.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Only to find out the virus isn’t done virusing after they open up again.
    Quarantining and contact tracing has worked to eliminate viruses before (either completely or from populations). What has not worked is waiting for a virus to stop. A virus cannot stop, it must be stopped. It does not get bored. Even when defeated, it must be constantly watched for coming back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If the market is over valued and heading for a correction—that won’t disappear under Biden.
    An overvalued market is kindling. Without a spark, it will naturally adjust to the right level. With a spark, it is a disaster.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The bigger question is the economy.
    Right now, the economy is slowly dying. The world supply chains are reordering themselves around the USA, and no longer through the USA. It may take years, or even decades, but the direction we are going is a dark age, worse than a depression.

    A collapsing stock market will accelerate that, much like Black Thursday accelerated the Great Depression.

    At this point, if we could just stem the bleeding... But trump is incapable of doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Once a virus is loose in a population the virus is gonna virus. Europe is struggling to come to grips with this as some of the affected countries are going to lockdown, again. Only to find out the virus isn’t done virusing after they open up again.

    You’re delusional about BLM and the raging lefties. Under Biden [or would it be Harris?] they won’t be able to scapegoat Trump for lefty violence and mayhem.

    If the market is over valued and heading for a correction—that won’t disappear under Biden. The bigger question is the economy. I see ZERO HOPE of an economic recovery under Biden. Especially, if he really intends to keep locking it down every time there’s a spike in cases. In fact, it will lead to an unmitigated economic disaster. Killing energy sector jobs on top of everything else.

    Nothing short of madness.
    Indeed.

    No country has had success with controlling the virus from China.

    The radical Democrats have politicized a virus that is uncontrolled world wide.

    They should be punished for this at the polls and their riots in the streets of cities that Democrats control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    The Biden win and a Blue Team majority in the Senate would be the start to rebuilding the Trump ransacking of America.
    China, North Korea, Vz., Cuba, Iran and ISIS are all rooting for you Jack.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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