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    Trump’s Ballot-Counting Demand Would Disenfranchise Overseas Troops
    States allow ballots from military personnel and diplomats to be counted as late as two weeks after Nov. 3, but Trump is insisting that all counting stop that night.
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    WASHINGTON ― The commander in chief who reportedly called U.S. troops “suckers” and “losers” is now pushing a ballot-counting policy that could disenfranchise tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of American service members who are voting from overseas.

    President Donald Trump, in social media posts and remarks, is demanding that all ballots be counted by election night, even though federal law permits states to count ballots from troops stationed outside the United States, diplomats and other Americans abroad to have their ballots counted days later, as long as they were sent no later than Election Day.

    In Trump’s new home state of Florida, the deadline for this election is Nov. 13. So, for example, his attempt to skew the counting in his favor could prevent service members deployed overseas from the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville or from Southern Command headquarters in Doral from having their votes matter.

    “Trump simply never thinks of the military in his decisions. They just don’t matter to him,” said Fred Wellman, a retired Army helicopter pilot who now works with the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. “Thousands of ballots are inbound from around the world, and if Trump gets his way they won’t even be counted at all. It’s un-American and yet another failure to act as a competent and decent commander in chief because they are simply props for his ego.”

    This is unsurprising. It’s just solely about him. The soldiers, sailors and Marines don’t matter. The foreign service officers don’t matter.
    Mac Stipanovich, Republican strategist
    In a statement posted Monday ― and which was flagged by Twitter for being misleading ― Trump wrote: “Big problems and discrepancies with Mail In Ballots all over the USA. Must have final total on November 3rd.”

    At a Las Vegas news conference Wednesday, Trump again insisted that all counting stop by the end of Election Day: “Hopefully the few states remaining that want to take a lot of time after Nov. 3 to count ballots, that won’t be allowed by the various courts.”

    Neither White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany nor the Trump campaign responded to HuffPost’s queries about the effect Trump’s demand could have on military ballots.

    According to the Federal Voting Assistance Program, there are 4.8 million U.S. citizens abroad, with nearly 3 million eligible to vote. Just under 1 million are members of the U.S. military. Because of the difficulties and delays inherent in sending and receiving mail internationally, the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act was signed in 1986 to make sure such votes get counted by setting deadlines for how late ballots could be mailed to recipients overseas and permitting them to be counted if they arrived after Election Day.

    States likely to be pivotal next week have deadlines for receiving those ballots that range from Nov. 6 in Georgia to Nov. 9 in Texas to Nov. 12 in North Carolina to Nov. 17 in Michigan. Trump’s insistence on stopping the vote count on Nov. 3 would, if he succeeds, disqualify any ballot that arrived in those states after election night.

    Such ballots played a key role in the disputed 2000 presidential election, which was ultimately decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in favor of Republican George W. Bush. Democrats decided not to challenge overseas ballots, even knowing that most were probably for Bush, said longtime GOP strategist Mac Stipanovich, who worked for Bush during the Florida recount. Bush wound up winning by 537 votes in the crucial state.

    Stipanovich said it was ironic that the leader of today’s Republican Party has no problem disenfranchising military personnel abroad. “Well, I guess they’re dumb-asses for going overseas,” he said, referring to a September article in The Atlantic reporting that Trump had called soldiers “suckers” and “losers” for risking their lives on behalf of the country.

    “This is unsurprising,” Stipanovich said. “It’s just solely about him. The soldiers, sailors and Marines don’t matter. The foreign service officers don’t matter.”

    Trump and his supporters have spoken openly about shutting down counting on election night, when many of them believe he will hold an apparent lead because some states count Election Day in-person votes before mailed ballots, which, depending on the state, can take many days to tabulate.

    Former top White House aide Stephen Bannon has pushed this strategy on his radio show because Trump has encouraged his supporters to vote in person on Election Day, while Democrats have been pushing advance voting.

    Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, whom Trump appointed in 2018, appeared to support it in a recent concurring opinion in a case that blocked Wisconsin from counting mail-in ballots that arrive after Election Day, even if they are postmarked on or before Nov. 3.

    Kavanaugh said that blocking such ballots is necessary “to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after Election Day and potentially flip the results of an election.” He added: “Those states also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”

    Neither assertion is backed up by historical fact or by case law, but both mirror Trump’s desire to end counting that night.

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    Since the beginning of September the military has had access to free expedited mail service/tracking... (Label 11-DoD)...Or email, fax, or online portals for some states....
    All votes matter...Plenty of resources for our military to vote Plenty of resources for everyone to vote....

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    ROFL.
    Biden is running a loser's ad from some creep NSA type from Vietnam (advisor to Bush)
    He's parroting the "losers" and such NYTime fake news anonymouse source

    I wonder if that shit will backfire -probably not- as people only get fake news

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    Kavanaugh said that blocking such ballots is necessary “to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after Election Day and potentially flip the results of an election.” He added: “Those states also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”

    President Trump loves the military...has said so numerous times and has rebuilt the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Kavanaugh said that blocking such ballots is necessary “to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after Election Day and potentially flip the results of an election.” He added: “Those states also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”

    President Trump loves the military...has said so numerous times and has rebuilt the military.
    Earl, if Trump loves soldiers, then why didn't Trump do anything about Russia paying bounties on our soldiers lives, and why did Trump call our fallen soldiers suckers and losers?????????????
    Lock Him Up

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    Next on the itinerary: Trump hates apple pie!






    barf
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    "TRUMP EATS HIS STEAKS WELL DONE!"

    "WITH KETCHUP!"
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    In 29 states and the District of Columbia, the laws and rules allow election officials to count ballots that arrive after the polls close from military, their family members, and U.S. citizens overseas, according to an analysis conducted for the Count Every Hero campaign. It varies from two extra days in South Carolina to 20 days in Washington state.
    https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-be...sentee-ballot/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Kavanaugh said that blocking such ballots is necessary “to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after Election Day and potentially flip the results of an election.” He added: “Those states also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”

    President Trump loves the military...has said so numerous times and has rebuilt the military.
    Yes, that argument earned him an "F" in legal reasoning. As was pointed out to him, his notion that counting ballots could "...flip the results of an election" is without logic since ballots are what determine the result. Saying the result has been already determined plainly begs the question the Court was deciding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Yes, that argument earned him an "F" in legal reasoning. As was pointed out to him, his notion that counting ballots could "...flip the results of an election" is without logic since ballots are what determine the result. Saying the result has been already determined plainly begs the question the Court was deciding.
    Well, Marty, counting ballots that arrive one year from now would be fairly stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Earl, if Trump loves soldiers, then why didn't Trump do anything about Russia paying bounties on our soldiers lives, and why did Trump call our fallen soldiers suckers and losers?????????????
    Both of those lies have been refuted by people on the ground, Trumper.

    I posted the links several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Both of those have been refuted by people on the ground, Trumper.

    I posted the links several times.
    Earl, would you mind posting the links again.
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    "They just don’t matter to him,” said Fred Wellman, a retired Army helicopter pilot who now works with the anti-Trump Lincoln Project."

    The Lincoln Project...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Earl, would you mind posting the links again.
    No, Trumper. just use Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    "They just don’t matter to him,” said Fred Wellman, a retired Army helicopter pilot who now works with the anti-Trump Lincoln Project."

    The Lincoln Project...lol
    The Lincoln Project is great
    Lock Him Up

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