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    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, on Thursday called herd immunity and implications from The Great Barrington Declaration “nonsense and very dangerous,” when it comes to stopping the spread of coronavirus in the U.S.

    The comments arose when Daniel Klaidman, editor in chief at Yahoo News, questioned whether herd immunity is a viable strategy in the U.S., citing The Great Barrington Declaration and reports that some White House officials are embracing the approach, namely Dr. Scott Atlas who is on the coronavirus task force.

    The Declaration, penned by professors at Harvard, Oxford and Stanford universities, calls for “focused protection” by letting young, low-risk populations carry on with their lives and naturally becoming infected while protecting those at high risk.

    "As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity," authors wrote.

    Fauci agrees with certain tenets of the Declaration, like avoiding lockdowns and protecting the vulnerable, however he said the document has other implications.

    He estimated that about one-third of the population is vulnerable to serious complications from COVID-19 disease, arguing it would be impossible to protect these people who live outside of nursing homes. They are the elderly, the obese and those with underlying conditions like heart disease and diabetes. (The Declaration proposes using staff with acquired immunity, minimal staff rotation and frequent PCR testing of others in the facility.)

    “Quite frankly, that is nonsense and anybody who knows anything about epidemiology will tell you that that is nonsense and very dangerous,” Fauci said, predicting that the approach would cause many avoidable deaths.

    He said while a "certain core group of people" might be advocating for herd immunity, "talk at standard people" across the country with an understanding of infectious diseases and epidemiology would “vehemently disagree with the idea of letting everybody get infected and don’t worry about it.”

    Fauci's condemnation of a herd immunity approach on Thursday comes days after the head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, dismissed proposals for the strategy as "simply unethical." He noted that to obtain herd immunity from a highly infectious disease such as measles, for example, about 95% of the population must be immunized.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci...ation-nonsense

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    id severely like to smack the smile off Facetime Fauci

    Fauci agrees with certain tenets of the The Great Barrington Declaration, like avoiding lockdowns and protecting the vulnerable, however he said the document has other implications.
    the headline is Fauci hates herd immunity as a concept -
    and yet he calls for no more lockdowns and protecting the vulnerable

    This idiot just says shit for face time

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, on Thursday called herd immunity and implications from The Great Barrington Declaration “nonsense and very dangerous,” when it comes to stopping the spread of coronavirus in the U.S.

    The comments arose when Daniel Klaidman, editor in chief at Yahoo News, questioned whether herd immunity is a viable strategy in the U.S., citing The Great Barrington Declaration and reports that some White House officials are embracing the approach, namely Dr. Scott Atlas who is on the coronavirus task force.

    The Declaration, penned by professors at Harvard, Oxford and Stanford universities, calls for “focused protection” by letting young, low-risk populations carry on with their lives and naturally becoming infected while protecting those at high risk.

    "As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity," authors wrote.

    Fauci agrees with certain tenets of the Declaration, like avoiding lockdowns and protecting the vulnerable, however he said the document has other implications.

    He estimated that about one-third of the population is vulnerable to serious complications from COVID-19 disease, arguing it would be impossible to protect these people who live outside of nursing homes. They are the elderly, the obese and those with underlying conditions like heart disease and diabetes. (The Declaration proposes using staff with acquired immunity, minimal staff rotation and frequent PCR testing of others in the facility.)

    “Quite frankly, that is nonsense and anybody who knows anything about epidemiology will tell you that that is nonsense and very dangerous,” Fauci said, predicting that the approach would cause many avoidable deaths.

    He said while a "certain core group of people" might be advocating for herd immunity, "talk at standard people" across the country with an understanding of infectious diseases and epidemiology would “vehemently disagree with the idea of letting everybody get infected and don’t worry about it.”

    Fauci's condemnation of a herd immunity approach on Thursday comes days after the head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, dismissed proposals for the strategy as "simply unethical." He noted that to obtain herd immunity from a highly infectious disease such as measles, for example, about 95% of the population must be immunized.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci...ation-nonsense

    Herd immunity is another name for mass murder

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    He said while a "certain core group of people" might be advocating for herd immunity, "talk at standard people" across the country with an understanding of infectious diseases and epidemiology would “vehemently disagree with the idea of letting everybody get infected and don’t worry about it.”
    nobody says that. everyone endorses practices social distancing and masks

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    Fauci is a self serving bureaucrat like all the rest....the Truth barely matters to him.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Fauci is a self serving bureaucrat like all the rest....the Truth barely matters to him.
    the truth is whatever is convenient for Fauci

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    nobody says that. everyone endorses practices social distancing and masks
    Fauci is gone with a Trump win.

    Right, no one is advocating ‘everyone get it’. What is being advocated is allowing people who have a 99.9something% survival rate to get it.

    Presently, we are ‘protecting’ the very population that is indispensable if we are going to get to herd immunity. This includes everyone under 30 or even up to 40 years old.

    What anti-HI zealots like Fauci fail to understand is it’s possible *HI may be our only way out of this*. If that turns out the case we are doing everything ass-backwards.

    Moreover, contrary to the hype/panic, we have learned that schools can be open up—K-12 to the college level without any of the disasters predicted by the Prophets of Doom. Same goes for working healthy people.

    The current data all but spells No More Lockdowns in neon lights. In fact, Fauci and a bunch of them have egg on their face for advocating it in the first place. From day one, schools never should have been closed, only targeted mitigation put in place and *only in those regions that had significant numbers*.

    We needed the Barrington Declaration in March.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Fauci is gone with a Trump win.

    Right, no one is advocating ‘everyone get it’. What is being advocated is allowing people who have a 99.9something% survival rate to get it.

    Presently, we are ‘protecting’ the very population that is indispensable if we are going to get to herd immunity. This includes everyone under 30 or even up to 40 years old.

    What anti-HI zealots like Fauci fail to understand is it’s possible *HI may be our only way out of this*. If that turns out the case we are doing everything ass-backwards.

    Moreover, contrary to the hype/panic, we have learned that schools can be open up—K-12 to the college level without any of the disasters predicted by the Prophets of Doom. Same goes for working healthy people.

    The current data all but spells No More Lockdowns in neon lights. In fact, Fauci and a bunch of them have egg on their face for advocating it in the first place. From day one, schools never should have been closed, only targeted mitigation put in place and *only in those regions that had significant numbers*.

    We needed the Barrington Declaration in March.
    There will be no Trump win....that was disallowed long ago...under what rock do you live?
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    There will be no Trump win....that was disallowed long ago...under what rock do you live?
    Well, I thought that four years ago lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Fauci is gone with a Trump win.

    Right, no one is advocating ‘everyone get it’. What is being advocated is allowing people who have a 99.9something% survival rate to get it.

    Presently, we are ‘protecting’ the very population that is indispensable if we are going to get to herd immunity. This includes everyone under 30 or even up to 40 years old.

    What anti-HI zealots like Fauci fail to understand is it’s possible *HI may be our only way out of this*. If that turns out the case we are doing everything ass-backwards.

    Moreover, contrary to the hype/panic, we have learned that schools can be open up—K-12 to the college level without any of the disasters predicted by the Prophets of Doom. Same goes for working healthy people.

    The current data all but spells No More Lockdowns in neon lights. In fact, Fauci and a bunch of them have egg on their face for advocating it in the first place. From day one, schools never should have been closed, only targeted mitigation put in place and *only in those regions that had significant numbers*.

    We needed the Barrington Declaration in March.
    The fear was driven by the numbers -what was it 2 million or more deaths ?

    My question as well: IS WHERE IN THE HELL DID THEY COOK THESE NUMBERS UP FROM??

    PS.^all solid points that deserve a separate response

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Well, I thought that four years ago lol.
    Me too actually....them too actually.....just look at how they mentally disintegrated when Trump won!

    Surely they must be better this time.

    Surely this time they get him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, on Thursday called herd immunity and implications from The Great Barrington Declaration “nonsense and very dangerous,” when it comes to stopping the spread of coronavirus in the U.S.

    The comments arose when Daniel Klaidman, editor in chief at Yahoo News, questioned whether herd immunity is a viable strategy in the U.S., citing The Great Barrington Declaration and reports that some White House officials are embracing the approach, namely Dr. Scott Atlas who is on the coronavirus task force.

    The Declaration, penned by professors at Harvard, Oxford and Stanford universities, calls for “focused protection” by letting young, low-risk populations carry on with their lives and naturally becoming infected while protecting those at high risk.

    "As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity," authors wrote.

    Fauci agrees with certain tenets of the Declaration, like avoiding lockdowns and protecting the vulnerable, however he said the document has other implications.

    He estimated that about one-third of the population is vulnerable to serious complications from COVID-19 disease, arguing it would be impossible to protect these people who live outside of nursing homes. They are the elderly, the obese and those with underlying conditions like heart disease and diabetes. (The Declaration proposes using staff with acquired immunity, minimal staff rotation and frequent PCR testing of others in the facility.)

    “Quite frankly, that is nonsense and anybody who knows anything about epidemiology will tell you that that is nonsense and very dangerous,” Fauci said, predicting that the approach would cause many avoidable deaths.

    He said while a "certain core group of people" might be advocating for herd immunity, "talk at standard people" across the country with an understanding of infectious diseases and epidemiology would “vehemently disagree with the idea of letting everybody get infected and don’t worry about it.”

    Fauci's condemnation of a herd immunity approach on Thursday comes days after the head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, dismissed proposals for the strategy as "simply unethical." He noted that to obtain herd immunity from a highly infectious disease such as measles, for example, about 95% of the population must be immunized.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci...ation-nonsense
    If you are foolish enough to take medical advice from Trump, then you deserve what get get.
    Lock Him Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Me too actually....them too actually.....just look at how they mentally disintegrated when Trump won!

    Surely they must be better this time.

    Surely this time they get him.
    Maybe this will be it, finally lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Maybe this will be it, finally lol.
    4 years, all the best brains on the project.....surely this time it works!
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    The fear was driven by the numbers -what was it 2 million or more deaths ?

    My question as well: IS WHERE IN THE HELL DID THEY COOK THESE NUMBERS UP FROM??

    PS.^all solid points that deserve a separate response
    The numbers came from computer models.

    Computer models Fauci and the rest had to know were sketchy—or they are simply incompetent.
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