“I knew Trump would lose” just wait for it...

**Sailor** · 10-29-2020, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta

I can't see another Trump ever rising to power again in our lifetime. People thought it would be exciting to elect him, but the resulting horrors brought people down to earth. The Trumpers will get in line with the next GOP candidate because that's what good Republicans always do.

This is laughable coming from a Democrat who would vote for a mass murderer if he/she had a "D" after their name.

**Concart** · 10-29-2020, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta

I can't see another Trump ever rising to power again in our lifetime. People thought it would be exciting to elect him, but the resulting horrors brought people down to earth. The Trumpers will get in line with the next GOP candidate because that's what good Republicans always do.

Maybe so. I just don't see it. I think they're going to push for Don Junior or some other such stupidity. And the usual suspects can't win an election for dog catcher. Nikki Haley probably would have the best shot, she didn't fully abandon Trump but her defense always seemed to be delivered with a wink to the smarter people in the audience.

**TexanManWithPlans** · 10-29-2020, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Concart

Maybe so. I just don't see it. I think they're going to push for Don Junior or some other such stupidity. And the usual suspects can't win an election for dog catcher. Nikki Haley probably would have the best shot, she didn't fully abandon Trump but her defense always seemed to be delivered with a wink to the smarter people in the audience.

The GOP needs a candidate like Jon Huntsman, Jr. He left the governorship of Utah with a 90% rating and he's worked in administrations of presidents from both parties. He is worldly from his experiences as the US ambassador to China, he speaks fluent Mandarin, and he acknowledges science. The GOP could easily beat Biden in 2024 with him (and maybe Kasich as his running mate, or even a loony right-winger to get the Trumpers excited).

**Flash** · 10-29-2020, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

I'll just file this little right wing gem here

David E. RePass is an emeritus professor of political science at the University of Connecticut who has studied voting behavior for over 30 years. He is the author of, "Listening to the American Voter: What Was On Voters' Minds in Presidential Elections, 1960 to 2016."

"I predict that Trump will lose the election "

I hope he loses but RePass predicted Hillary would get 53% in 2016.

**anonymoose** · 10-29-2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Micawber

Nov 4 you’ll see the Trumfuck faithful start to say they thought Trump would lose all along. 😀

I thought he'd lose all along in 2016. Not sure what your point is.

**Sailor** · 10-29-2020, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by anonymoose

I thought he'd lose all along in 2016. Not sure what your point is.

Does he ever have one?

**archives** · 10-29-2020, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta

The GOP needs a candidate like Jon Huntsman, Jr. He left the governorship of Utah with a 90% rating and he's worked in administrations of presidents from both parties. He is worldly from his experiences as the US ambassador to China, he speaks fluent Mandarin, and he acknowledges science. The GOP could easily beat Biden in 2024 with him (and maybe Kasich as his running mate, or even a loony right-winger to get the Trumpers excited).

Too placid for the GOP base, if he loses, it is going to take more than four years for them to forget the Trump schtick, it either has to be a flame thrower like Cotton, or, a closet flame thrower like Cruz, somebody who knows how to play the right wing media

**anonymoose** · 10-29-2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Concart

Maybe so. I just don't see it. I think they're going to push for Don Junior or some other such stupidity. And the usual suspects can't win an election for dog catcher. Nikki Haley probably would have the best shot, she didn't fully abandon Trump but her defense always seemed to be delivered with a wink to the smarter people in the audience.

I could see that guy from - OK? with the eye patch as a rising star. He seems fairly intelligent. His response to that freak from SNL making fun of the patch was cool.

**cawacko** · 10-29-2020, 04:23 PM

From the right it makes you do a serious double take, with whip lash, to hear progressives talk about Romney being a moderate, having gravitas and being a sign of respectability. This is the same guy who in 2012 (supposedly) had a far right wing economic agenda along with being a racist and sexist vulture capitalist. Same guy now being praised in liberal circles.

**Sailor** · 10-29-2020, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by cawacko

From the right it makes you do a serious double take, with whip lash, to hear progressives talk about Romney being a moderate, having gravitas and being a sign of respectability. This is the same guy who in 2012 (supposedly) had a far right wing economic agenda along with being a racist and sexist vulture capitalist. Same guy now being praised in liberal circles.

That just shows how fucked in the head and confused the modern day Democrat has become.

**Concart** · 10-29-2020, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by cawacko

From the right it makes you do a serious double take, with whip lash, to hear progressives talk about Romney being a moderate, having gravitas and being a sign of respectability. This is the same guy who in 2012 (supposedly) had a far right wing economic agenda along with being a racist and sexist vulture capitalist. Same guy now being praised in liberal circles.

Interesting observation. I had a similar conversation today. It's part of the reason I'm hopeful. We (and I am included in that we) on 'the left' demonized Romney, and suddenly, we found out what a real demon looked like. I think a large segment of the population that had become polarized have suddenly found common ground, and common ground leads to more fruitful discussions. I think we're more likely to see the two sides work together going forward. So your comment is completely fair, an I'll plead guilty. We sometimes forget that disagreeing doesn't not mean that the other side lacks integrity. This has been a good reminder.

**Concart** · 10-29-2020, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by anonymoose

I could see that guy from - OK? with the eye patch as a rising star. He seems fairly intelligent. His response to that freak from SNL making fun of the patch was cool.

Texas I think. Good observation. You're right, he checks a lot of the boxes. And he handled that extremely well.

**Concart** · 10-29-2020, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta

The GOP needs a candidate like Jon Huntsman, Jr. He left the governorship of Utah with a 90% rating and he's worked in administrations of presidents from both parties. He is worldly from his experiences as the US ambassador to China, he speaks fluent Mandarin, and he acknowledges science. The GOP could easily beat Biden in 2024 with him (and maybe Kasich as his running mate, or even a loony right-winger to get the Trumpers excited).

I really liked Huntman. Would be wonderful if they ran someone like that.

**Geeko Sportivo** · 10-29-2020, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

If all these claims about Trump being like Hitler were anywhere close to being true, you would have "disappeared" a long time ago, boy.

And if you really played the Banjo, you'd be like....

***Damocles*** · 10-29-2020, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Concart

I thought about that. But the Trumptards hate him. The party is so fractured I'm not sure a moderate can make any headway. And honestly, I think Romney is over it. I could be wrong, he certainly has the gravitas.

Hopefully the Trump loving weirdos will settle down back into normal republicans once his terms are over. This politics of personality is sickening. I vote policy, and Biden's are bad so I won't vote for them, and I vote SCOTUS and Judge Appointments... I've never liked Trump, but I will vote for him over Biden every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays.