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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Exit polling was always seen as bedrock. It was so good that Calif and other west coast states asked the TV networks to stop calling the election on polling because their people had not voted yet. It is used for checking to see if foreign nations are having fair elections.
    Now in one country, it does not work, the USA. We blamed the companies. I saw a mathematician saying they had doubled the exit polling and made it so it was mathematically impossible for the polling to be wrong. Then it was. This problem has existed since Diebold and other right-wing companies installed the vote machines. They do not permit the states to take them apart and test them. They claim proprietary secret information. They are fucking tabulators.
    That is what adds interest to this election. Mail-in is not handled by the machines. We may learn something.
    The problem is, several more million Ballots were mailed out that have not come in yet, AND NOW IT IS TOO LATE TO MAIL THEM.

    So, anyone who hasn't mailed in your Ballot- IT'S TOO FUCKING LATE TO MAIL IT- AND YOU NEED TO VOTE IN LINE WITH EVERYONE ELSE NOW- unless you vote Republican- then you need to just go ahead and mail yours as usual! BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    ... but why would independent polling firms try to push the idea that one side is winning and the other is not?
    Wrong question. The correct question is "Why do independent polling firms try to push the idea that one side is winning?"

    The answer is straightforward: conflict of interest. There is a huge market for telling people what they want to hear. Polling firms are really no different from palm readers. They will tell the one buying the fortune that his fortune is bright ... because that's what it takes to sell the fortune.

    Example: Democrats and Leftists are desperate for Trump to lose. Desperate! They will click on ANY click-bait that appears to contain bad news for Trump, that says Biden is up five points or that promises a Biden victory in the Presidential election ... and Democrats/Leftists will rush whatever they read to their favorite message board, e.g. JPP, and pronounce the good news as though it is the gospel truth.

    Conservatives, on the other hand, are not worried about this election. They know Trump is going to give Reagan's landslide a run for its money. They don't need any reassurances and thus they are not buying any click-bait. The click-bait market is what determines which poll "results" will be profitable ... which drives the poll "results."

    I hope that answers your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I don’t know much about them except they generally have higher numbers fir Republicans going as far back as GWB.
    You know everything about them, honey pot. They are your bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    The best part of citing polls is how it gets Earls depends in a bundle...LOL
    Earl will be needing a Kotex and a Tampon come election night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If they were trying to help Biden and willing to lie.... why make it look like he is way ahead? Why not make it look like he is barely behind?
    You can't think why? It is an effort to depress the Trump vote and make them think that it isn't even worth it to vote. That is why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I can see why some polling companies would inflate one side or the other, they are being funded by donors or parties or campaigns to push a narrative, but why would independent polling firms try to push the idea that one side is winning and the other is not?

    If they were trying to influence an election would the campaign not want their voters to believe it is very close, or that they are just a smigion behind?

    If your voters think you are cruising to a huge victory, (some say this happened to Hillary) they might just stay home, afterall the outcome is a foregone conclusion. If I were Biden I would hope Trump* voters would think he was way ahead, not need to actually risk your health to go vote.....


    Someone explain to me the advantage to a partisan to having his voters falsely believe he is way ahead?
    ... because the DemoKKKrat party must cheat to win because they can't win a fair election outside of their own depraved urban centers...

    They use polling as voter suppression, meant to discourage R's from turning out, and meant to psychologically play off of one's natural wish to be on the "winning team"...

    Polls are (mostly) fake garbage, and the polls which aren't still have numerous issues with them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Buyden View Post
    You can't think why? It is an effort to depress the Trump vote and make them think that it isn't even worth it to vote. That is why
    BINGO!!!!

    5 gold stars for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If they were trying to help Biden and willing to lie.... why make it look like he is way ahead? Why not make it look like he is barely behind?
    Because they figure going national with this bullshit story will sway more people than the 8,000 they contacted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Buyden View Post
    You can't think why? It is an effort to depress the Trump vote and make them think that it isn't even worth it to vote. That is why
    Then why not make it look like a blowout? Why not claim Trump has no chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    I believe there definitely can be bias is polling but polling is a snap shot. Its not the entire picture but people here are getting hard ons about polls showing lying racist groping imbecile Joe and his kamal ahead in "the lead". I am amazed that they can't be more cautious given what they experienced in 2016. I guess if people are desperate enough they will grasp at anything. As they say a drowning man will grab at the blade of sword.
    The national polling was quite accurate in 2016 compared to the outcome.

    Most polls have a margin of error of about 3 points. Of the 10 final national polls, all but 2 of them were within that 3 point error. Of the other 2, one showed Clinton winning by 6 points (off by 4) and the other one showed Trump winning by 3 points (off by 5). The problem wasn't the polls but what people thought the polls meant. Small leads in the national polls don't mean you win individual states. Trump managed to eke out a small win in just enough states to win the electoral college. This time around the polling of states is being adjusted to make up for errors from last time. The only state polling that really was outside the margin of error in 2016 was Wisconsin which wasn't heavily polled. We will have to wait and see how the pollsters managed to adjust their models this year. We may find out that they over corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    Perhaps those so-called Independent polls aren't so Independent.

    It's not a coincidence that most polling, news reporting and educational systems are run by leftist sociopaths.
    But wouldn't they hurt themselves by lying when they end up being proven wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I can see why some polling companies would inflate one side or the other, they are being funded by donors or parties or campaigns to push a narrative, but why would independent polling firms try to push the idea that one side is winning and the other is not?

    If they were trying to influence an election would the campaign not want their voters to believe it is very close, or that they are just a smigion behind?

    If your voters think you are cruising to a huge victory, (some say this happened to Hillary) they might just stay home, afterall the outcome is a foregone conclusion. If I were Biden I would hope Trump* voters would think he was way ahead, not need to actually risk your health to go vote.....


    Someone explain to me the advantage to a partisan to having his voters falsely believe he is way ahead?
    So that the polling source can afterwards proudly complain that they called it right, applies especially to the lesser polling sites who see the gamble worth the possible gain

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    I guess that’s why there’s more than one ...

    What’s wrong, can’t find someone to tell you want you want to hear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    ... because the DemoKKKrat party must cheat to win because they can't win a fair election outside of their own depraved urban centers...

    They use polling as voter suppression, meant to discourage R's from turning out, and meant to psychologically play off of one's natural wish to be on the "winning team"...

    Polls are (mostly) fake garbage, and the polls which aren't still have numerous issues with them...
    Bit off target, but can't let it slip, "depraved urban centers," like America is known for gated villages in Florida, if it weren't for those "depraved urban centers" the US would resemble Albania

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    Why is it that Trumppers* constantly imagine that the entire world is against them. Anytime they face bad news its always because someone unfairly hates them.
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